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Is a QS entitled to sign off an EICR?

Open to debate, but I say no.


The whole concept of QS seems to be a creation of NICEIC, but I can see the point of it. If I am employed by DZ Electrical and make a mess of things, the company is vicariously responsible for my errors. I cannot be sued. So it would be in the interests of DZ Electrical to ensure that I am competent to work for them.


However, I suggest that an EICR is personal. The model form in Appendix 6 (page 473) has a declaration, but includes the name and signature of the inspector and tester as well as whoever authorises the report.

651.5 The periodic inspection and testing shall be carried out by one or more skilled persons competent in such work. Skilled person is defined in Part 2. If the identity of the inspector and tester is not disclosed, how may I as the client know that he or she is skilled?


The Electrical Safety Standards in the Private Rented Sector (England) Regulations 2020 require that A private landlord ... must ... ensure that every electrical installation in the residential premises is inspected and tested at regular intervals by a qualified person and qualified person is defined as a person competent to undertake the inspection and testing required under regulation 3(1) and any further investigative or remedial work in accordance with the electrical safety standards.


If the identity of the inspector and tester is not revealed, how could the landlord possibly ensure that he (or she) is qualified?


So, in my opinion, at the very least for a private landlord's report, the EICR must be signed off by the inspector and tester. I might go further and suggest that the report should include the inspector's qualifications.
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  • There is a further complication - because everyone who installs anything to  '7671 can inspect and test their own works (well I hope they can, though maybe it is not all ...)  it sounds and looks like a job where you go and inspect someone else's work from some years ago might be quite similar.

    However that is not true,  the skill-set required to commission stuff you understand because you put it in yourself, is much reduced. To inspect the work of others is far more like fault finding or driving an unfamiliar vehicle, you need to work out what the designer and installer were thinking at the time, perhaps also know  what version of regs they were working too, and to know if that requires some allowance or not really.

    To get into someone else's head may be quite easy if it is just one domestic ring of sockets plus some basic lighting radial, but beyond that  many may not get so far with all the possible permutations of the heating wiring, let alone follow what is happening on  a big site with nested timers and controls  in an industrial setting.


    Mike.
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  • There is a further complication - because everyone who installs anything to  '7671 can inspect and test their own works (well I hope they can, though maybe it is not all ...)  it sounds and looks like a job where you go and inspect someone else's work from some years ago might be quite similar.

    However that is not true,  the skill-set required to commission stuff you understand because you put it in yourself, is much reduced. To inspect the work of others is far more like fault finding or driving an unfamiliar vehicle, you need to work out what the designer and installer were thinking at the time, perhaps also know  what version of regs they were working too, and to know if that requires some allowance or not really.

    To get into someone else's head may be quite easy if it is just one domestic ring of sockets plus some basic lighting radial, but beyond that  many may not get so far with all the possible permutations of the heating wiring, let alone follow what is happening on  a big site with nested timers and controls  in an industrial setting.


    Mike.
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