Chris Pearson:

lyledunn:

An otherwise perfectly sound installation with one code 2 is described as unsatisfactory. What does that convey to the recipient? Is it simply an unsatisfactory installation or is it a perfect installation with just one simple defect that conspires to render it unsatisfactory? 

Would you classify a chain as satisfactory just because only one link is broken?

There is always an analogy out there to suit every argument but the point I was making was for the inspector not to be forced in to a declaration of satisfactory or otherwise. Just list the defects and ascribe a code. Whoever is seeking the report can decide what remedial action is appropriate. Most recipients ignore code 3 issues as they do not automatically render the report unsatisfactory. Consequently, the very same code 3 issues re-appear on subsequent reports. Why spend money on an installation that a competent person tells you is satisfactory?

In Ireland there is no overall designation given in periodic inspection reports. it concentrates the minds of commercial/industrial clients to assess if all that needs to be done to ensure safety is, in fact, being done, so far as is reasonably practicable, to comply with statutory duties. By the way, I wouldn't hold up the Irish PIR as an exemplar, quite the contrary, but I do like this aspect of it.

I might colour my opinion for domestic installations but I rarely involve myself with them.

 

Chris Pearson:

lyledunn:

An otherwise perfectly sound installation with one code 2 is described as unsatisfactory. What does that convey to the recipient? Is it simply an unsatisfactory installation or is it a perfect installation with just one simple defect that conspires to render it unsatisfactory? 

Would you classify a chain as satisfactory just because only one link is broken?

There is always an analogy out there to suit every argument but the point I was making was for the inspector not to be forced in to a declaration of satisfactory or otherwise. Just list the defects and ascribe a code. Whoever is seeking the report can decide what remedial action is appropriate. Most recipients ignore code 3 issues as they do not automatically render the report unsatisfactory. Consequently, the very same code 3 issues re-appear on subsequent reports. Why spend money on an installation that a competent person tells you is satisfactory?

In Ireland there is no overall designation given in periodic inspection reports. it concentrates the minds of commercial/industrial clients to assess if all that needs to be done to ensure safety is, in fact, being done, so far as is reasonably practicable, to comply with statutory duties. By the way, I wouldn't hold up the Irish PIR as an exemplar, quite the contrary, but I do like this aspect of it.

I might colour my opinion for domestic installations but I rarely involve myself with them.