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IEC connector under a bath.

Sparkingchip
I presume an IP rated 10/250  IE C320-1 trailing socket plugged into a panel socket on a control panel under a bath in a domestic bathroom is acceptable, because it is classed as a connector rather than a plug and socket?


I am pretty confident that is acceptable, it’s the other end of the flex I am concerned about, but just want to double check this end is okay.


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    Chris Pearson:

    The BBC report suggests that in that tragic incident, the discarded equipment was more than that - "plug and cable with bare wires".




    I read the determination last night, the guys were pulled up on the connection behind the oven not being to standard as well as cutting off and leaving the plug in the house.


    I want everything absolutely clear in my head before contacting the supplier.


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    There are many reasons why it may be necessary to remove and discard a moulded plug, or replace a flexible cable with a moulded plug.


    Anyone doing so can remove the hazard by both removing the fuse, and twisting the live conductor pins - and also, if plastic, deforming the dummy earth pin.


    I always do this myself.


    A replacement appliance cable with bare ends at the appliance end, and a moulded plug still represents a hazard in the wrong hands, but many appliance manufacturers and electrical/electronic suppliers keep these in as standard, and they are available to members of the public, e.g. https://cpc.farnell.com/pro-elec/pe01017/lead-uk-plug-bare-end-5m/dp/PL13280


    However, I can see no reason to put people at undue risk by packaging a cut-off moulded plug, still with the fuse in and unmutilated as I described above - that is atrocious!
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    Sparkingchip:
    Chris Pearson:

    The BBC report suggests that in that tragic incident, the discarded equipment was more than that - "plug and cable with bare wires".




    I read the determination last night, the guys were pulled up on the connection behind the oven not being to standard as well as cutting off and leaving the plug in the house.


    I want everything absolutely clear in my head before contacting the supplier.




    According to the Inquiry, the workmen involved did not cut off the plug. They removed the whole cable with bare conductors at the end. That made it possible to hold L in one hand and N or E in the other. The amputated plug shown above may present a risk of shock, but I suggest a very much lower one.


    "The new cable and plug was a three core flexible white coloured cable with internal conductors for live, neutral and earth connections terminated at one end in a three pin plug. At the other end of the cable the sheathing and basic insulation were stripped back and the stranded copper conductors in each core were exposed over a length of approximately one centimetre." [20]

    Link to inquiry.


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    You mean, similar to this replacement spare part: https://www.espares.co.uk/product/es1249243?utm_source=google+shopping&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=google+shopping&gclid=Cj0KCQiApsiBBhCKARIsAN8o_4gjsiRgvrCsENdkZGBJPCw5R2VXGlejgWIwGpjK8iZz3QLRiozjqT4aAs59EALw_wcB ?


    ?


    I guess the difference with this tragic case, is that the workmen didn't think about leaving it out of reach of children or placing it in the care of a responsible adult until it could be disposed of safely - or, as I said, the shock in that case might have been prevented by removing the fuse and displacing the pins of the unused plug, to prevent its connection into a socket-outlet.


    I was taught to do this when I first started working in the industry as a teenager ! In fact, I was taught never just to cut off a plug or remove an appliance flex leaving bare ends with a fused plug still connected at the other end ... "Just in case a kiddie gets hold of it!"
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    Just to put that into perspective, that means I was taught this a couple of years short of 40 years ago! The Glasgow incident was well over 25 years after that!
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    All sorted out.

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