The EICR and competence. What are we going to do about the endless problems brought to the forum?

Apart from the fact that this forum is not private, this is pretty similar to the IET rules. I commented on the fire alarm because its functionality or wiring should not creep into BS7671 inspections, they have their own standard and inspection conditions, certificates, and risks to the inspector. I don't know of course if you have all this and the qualifications to go with it, but if you do you also know that the correct certificate is required. Your insurer will be interested to know that you install, and inspect fire alarm systems too. It could be a random comment on the EICR, information for the Landlord if he reads the EICR, but a separate warning letter would be much more effective. The fire alarm system is surely an appliance in flats or HMOs, therefore not covered by BS7671? The status of mains smoke alarms (building regulations) is not mentioned in BS7671, again I suggest they are appliances and therefore functionality is not for an EICR. Again the warning letter is probably the way to go.


I am going to reiterate why I am trying to collect data on poor EICRs. It is because they are becoming useless documents of zero value, Landlords are afraid of them, the legislation around rented properties is poorly defined and some in the trade are abusing the "power" they instill for repairs. The quality of many is very poor because the persons inspecting do not understand the regulations, and do not have the skills to apply them correctly. I consider this very serious and am therefore trying to collect the data necessary to do something about it. Some may not like the possibility of a change to the system, there really can only be one reason for that. Some "clubs" will not like a change because it will apply some controls to their actions, but how many of you really want controls like as an example, The Financial Conduct Authority, removed because it looks after the interests of consumers? I know all this will be an uphill struggle. I am happy for those who may disagree to comment and we can discuss it, many would read and find it interesting.

Apart from the fact that this forum is not private, this is pretty similar to the IET rules. I commented on the fire alarm because its functionality or wiring should not creep into BS7671 inspections, they have their own standard and inspection conditions, certificates, and risks to the inspector. I don't know of course if you have all this and the qualifications to go with it, but if you do you also know that the correct certificate is required. Your insurer will be interested to know that you install, and inspect fire alarm systems too. It could be a random comment on the EICR, information for the Landlord if he reads the EICR, but a separate warning letter would be much more effective. The fire alarm system is surely an appliance in flats or HMOs, therefore not covered by BS7671? The status of mains smoke alarms (building regulations) is not mentioned in BS7671, again I suggest they are appliances and therefore functionality is not for an EICR. Again the warning letter is probably the way to go.


I am going to reiterate why I am trying to collect data on poor EICRs. It is because they are becoming useless documents of zero value, Landlords are afraid of them, the legislation around rented properties is poorly defined and some in the trade are abusing the "power" they instill for repairs. The quality of many is very poor because the persons inspecting do not understand the regulations, and do not have the skills to apply them correctly. I consider this very serious and am therefore trying to collect the data necessary to do something about it. Some may not like the possibility of a change to the system, there really can only be one reason for that. Some "clubs" will not like a change because it will apply some controls to their actions, but how many of you really want controls like as an example, The Financial Conduct Authority, removed because it looks after the interests of consumers? I know all this will be an uphill struggle. I am happy for those who may disagree to comment and we can discuss it, many would read and find it interesting.