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Never mind the EVCPs, what about the boilers.

Chris Pearson
Apparently gas boilers should be banned from 2025.


At the moment, well under 10% of our energy is supplied by electricity: it is mostly gas. Use of an electric vehicle could double our leccy consumption, which would be bad enough; but (a) trebling the cost of our energy would be painful, and (b) how would the network and generation cope?
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    whjohnson:

    The incongruity  knows no bounds - a ground source heat pump - according to a rich neighbour of mine who markets such systems exclusively in the USA - states that for every quid spend on electric juice gets you four quid back. To me, there is never ever something for nothing, yet the supposedly smart degree-qualified chattering classes are going mad for these things.


    Under the right conditions, a heat pump can certainly give 4kWh of heat out for every 1kWh you put in.  They work on the same principle as a fridge or air conditioner, pumping heat from one place to another.


    Unfortunately, the efficiency drops as the source side gets colder, so you may only get a COP of 3 (3kWh out for 1kWh in), or 2, or less, in the depths of winter.


    But at current gas and electricity prices, it still works out more expensive than gas central heating.


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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-23104502
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    Well a valueable source of energy for use of fuel might be our corpses.

    Personally, when I`ve gone I don`t care what`s done with my remains so donate my bits to anyone that might have use for them has always been my motto. No longer of any use to me but I`d be happy if they could be use to someone or society as a whole. Not just as replacement organs (if possible) but as pigswill or fuel or whatever. Just make sure I am not recoverable first please.

    Soylent Green anyone?


    If we can make use of tech to reduce emissions and aim for zero then great, but pie in the sky unless we update our electrical infrastructure and that would take time and money (and make emissions!).

    Our planet is warming and we can not stop it - but we can make it worse or better if we choose to. At best we will allow a few more generations of human life before extinction if we choose to. Unless we`ve annhialeted each other before that happens
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    Sparkingchip:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-23104502


    A swimming dead heat eh?


    Z.


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    There really was a fuss about it when the plan was announced.
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    I'd only expect there to be a big outcry  if someone is doing things to artificially increase the fuel supply, otherwise it seems perfectly sensible.

    Mike
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    Are they not starting or have they already started the trialling of using hydrogen, I believe you can now purchase boilers from the big manufacturers that are hydrogen ready.
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    Do you actually have any idea how much Hydrogen costs at the moment? Your Gas bill would be 50 times as much as natural Gas!
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    Nobody actually expects to run their "hydrogen ready" boilers off hydrogen.  It's a way to justify buying a new boiler, when ones that only run on natural gas are banned.
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    The new boilers are being designed to run off part-hydrogen/part-natural gas. If Boris allows Carrie to continue to have her way I can see our forests being rapidly denuded of their trees for logs. What then? Will the Log Police come round?

    If people cannot heat their homes economically in the midst of a harsh cold winter the pitchforks will be out.

    I dare any MP to stand in the street and explain away his generous MP's heating allowance to an angry freezing mob.

    This isn't going to end well.

    Already the Poles have (rightly) told the eu to get stretched over their recent judgement over a Polish lignite mine being closed.

    Once the implications of this nonsense are allowed to sink in, the masses will not be a happy bunch.

    Me? Right now I'm looking into a new gas boiler to replace my 20 year old Baxi 105e combi, which is leaking from too many orifices now to make it an economical proposition for repair.

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