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Ring Main at Consumer unit

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My daughter has just had an electrical safety check done and I suspect that the electrician has been over zeleous..

Would anyone care to comment.


There is no grommet where the meter tails enter the consumer unit and the outer insulation stops just short of the knockout.

He has graded this C1.   Now my opinion is that that does not present an  an immediate threat to the safety of personell

It needs fixing but surely only a C2?


More intriguing.  He gives a C3 to the ring circuit because the two legs enter the consumer unit through separate knock outs.  I can't find that in the regs


And finally an old chestnut which has been discussed before.   A C3 because two radial "circuits" are served by a single breaker..  I have always argued that the definition of a circuit is that it is served by a single breaker.  Certainly if both radials were brought to a junction box outside the CU and then connected to the breaker by a single cable it would meet the definition of a radial..


Thanks for your attention

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  • Thanks for the reply.

    The MOT system is however rather different. The DOT has a number of Inspectors who routinely take cars to various MOT stations to have the car tested. The MOT station is then marked for quality and if the situation is not satisfactory the station may be delisted or the staff responsible required to take more training. There are also update courses which are mandatory, regularly.


    This is not the case for EICRs. You will immediately see that the difference is extremely important. The certifying bodies are not very interested in much which is quality and are largely "cash for logo" schemes, whatever their name may imply. The City and Guilds qualification has been dumbed down so significantly that it is easy to pass because "the pass rate is too low"! The regulations exam (open book) has a pass mark of 60%, which is not far below many of the candidates' scores, although it is quite possible to look up every correct answer in the time available. Full marks are extremely unusual. I would suggest that the inspectors should have a pass of at least 90%, but then there would be virtually NO inspectors.


    He may not want more work, then why do EICRs? This does not make sense. The next change that I would like to see is that reparations could not be carried out by the Inspector, his Company, or any other directly interested party. He should not be able to suggest another Contractor by Law with severe penalties. You will note that with the MOT you may have repairs anywhere you choose, a second opinion on what is needed.

    There is a system in place to report difficulties.
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  • Thanks for the reply.

    The MOT system is however rather different. The DOT has a number of Inspectors who routinely take cars to various MOT stations to have the car tested. The MOT station is then marked for quality and if the situation is not satisfactory the station may be delisted or the staff responsible required to take more training. There are also update courses which are mandatory, regularly.


    This is not the case for EICRs. You will immediately see that the difference is extremely important. The certifying bodies are not very interested in much which is quality and are largely "cash for logo" schemes, whatever their name may imply. The City and Guilds qualification has been dumbed down so significantly that it is easy to pass because "the pass rate is too low"! The regulations exam (open book) has a pass mark of 60%, which is not far below many of the candidates' scores, although it is quite possible to look up every correct answer in the time available. Full marks are extremely unusual. I would suggest that the inspectors should have a pass of at least 90%, but then there would be virtually NO inspectors.


    He may not want more work, then why do EICRs? This does not make sense. The next change that I would like to see is that reparations could not be carried out by the Inspector, his Company, or any other directly interested party. He should not be able to suggest another Contractor by Law with severe penalties. You will note that with the MOT you may have repairs anywhere you choose, a second opinion on what is needed.

    There is a system in place to report difficulties.
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