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Dad, What's a Circuit?

Well son that a long story.


In my dictionary a circuit is: roughly a circular route, a track for motor racing in the U.K., a regular journey around a district by a judge to hear cases, a system of conductors and components forming a complete electrical path. It comes from the Latin word "circuitus." (No doubt related to the Latin word "circulus," which means circle.


I can see why ebee's friend considers two lighting circuits connected to just one M.C.B.to be two circuits connected together. Two individual circuits connected in parallel in fact.


When we are taught about electrical circuits at school we are told that the circuit starts at the source, which could be a battery terminal , continues to a load, which could be a light bulb, through the load, and then returns back the the battery's second terminal. Or the same arrangement could be made using a transformer's secondary winding.


But B.S. 7671 defines a circuit as: "An assembly of electrical equipment supplied from the same origin and protected by the same overcurrent protective device(s)."


So, a 1.0 mm2 T&E cable supplying lighting connected to a 6 Amp M.C.B. is a circuit. In B.S. 7671 land if a second 1.0 mm2  T&E lighting cable is added to the same M.C.B. there is still only one circuit even though one lighting circuit may supply upstairs in a house, and the other downstairs. Or perhaps originally the two originated from two separate M.C.B.s.


So in B.S. 7671 land, 1 circuit plus 1 circuit = 1 circuit. How could it be any different?


I personally, still though, prefer to call that situation two circuits connected in parallel.


Z.

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  • If I reword my terminology as "A ring final circuit" (Bog Standard) and a Butterfly Circuit as a "two/three/seventeen looped Ring final Circuit" we might get a concensus then?.


    My one and only think of a two looped ring final came about because of drop fed sockets that I would normally put on one circuit for the main part of that particular  floor and the CU was sited approx mid position. I ended up making two seperate circuits to keep the ring lengths good rather than approaching  the higher end of reasonable and that`s what made me consider the two loop idea. I wanted to keep volt drop low too. It was discussing this that got me a few crazy comments like joining the two loop ends in the consumer unit to create a one looped ring which would almost double the loop length . Example two loops at 45m and 55m or one loop at 95m, which would you pick?
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  • If I reword my terminology as "A ring final circuit" (Bog Standard) and a Butterfly Circuit as a "two/three/seventeen looped Ring final Circuit" we might get a concensus then?.


    My one and only think of a two looped ring final came about because of drop fed sockets that I would normally put on one circuit for the main part of that particular  floor and the CU was sited approx mid position. I ended up making two seperate circuits to keep the ring lengths good rather than approaching  the higher end of reasonable and that`s what made me consider the two loop idea. I wanted to keep volt drop low too. It was discussing this that got me a few crazy comments like joining the two loop ends in the consumer unit to create a one looped ring which would almost double the loop length . Example two loops at 45m and 55m or one loop at 95m, which would you pick?
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