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EV Charging using 13amp external socket outlet

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For an external socket outlet to be used as a dedicated EV charging point, what are the earthing arrangements ? Given it will be RCD protected. I assuming this socket outlet will be considered as an EV Charging point under the regs.


Is mode 1 not allowed in the UK anymore? I read this in an article done by IET Wiring matter "According to a note in IEC 61851 Mode 1 charging is not permitted in the UK". If so why is it still in the regs?


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    gkenyon:
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    gkenyon:
    David Bridgman:

     

    If I was running a 10A plus load for Hours, a 16A BS4343 (Commando) socket would be my socket of choice.

     


    Noting of course that BS 7671 prohibits those in domestic premises, because they are not shuttered.

     



    553.1.201 Every socket-outlet for household and similar use shall be of the shuttered type and, for an AC installation, shall preferably be of a type complying with BS 1363.



     




    If the 13 Amp plug is likely to overheat could I not apply 553.1.5 (iii) and use a caravan socket and plug?


    Z.




    How do you work that out? (iii) applies to a plug and socket-outlet "not complying with BS 1363, BS 546 or BS EN 60309-2"


    And regardless, 553.1.201 is not a requirement for a BS 1363 socket-outlets to be used exclusively in household and similar use, it's just a preference, but for all socket-outlets for household and similar use to be shuttered.


    I have a 16 A BS EN 60309-2 socket-outlet in my detached garage, but I've taken a decision it's not "household and similar use" because it's for my welder which specifically states it can't be used with a BS 1363-1 plug.


    However, I'm sure there will be people who disagree with my decision and will say that the garage is part of the household ...




    Would that rule out the use of a B.S.4343 socket or plug?


    Z.


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    gkenyon:
    Zoomup:
    gkenyon:
    David Bridgman:

     

    If I was running a 10A plus load for Hours, a 16A BS4343 (Commando) socket would be my socket of choice.

     


    Noting of course that BS 7671 prohibits those in domestic premises, because they are not shuttered.

     



    553.1.201 Every socket-outlet for household and similar use shall be of the shuttered type and, for an AC installation, shall preferably be of a type complying with BS 1363.



     




    If the 13 Amp plug is likely to overheat could I not apply 553.1.5 (iii) and use a caravan socket and plug?


    Z.




    How do you work that out? (iii) applies to a plug and socket-outlet "not complying with BS 1363, BS 546 or BS EN 60309-2"


    And regardless, 553.1.201 is not a requirement for a BS 1363 socket-outlets to be used exclusively in household and similar use, it's just a preference, but for all socket-outlets for household and similar use to be shuttered.


    I have a 16 A BS EN 60309-2 socket-outlet in my detached garage, but I've taken a decision it's not "household and similar use" because it's for my welder which specifically states it can't be used with a BS 1363-1 plug.


    However, I'm sure there will be people who disagree with my decision and will say that the garage is part of the household ...




    Would that rule out the use of a B.S.4343 socket or plug?


    Z.


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