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EV Charging using 13amp external socket outlet

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For an external socket outlet to be used as a dedicated EV charging point, what are the earthing arrangements ? Given it will be RCD protected. I assuming this socket outlet will be considered as an EV Charging point under the regs.


Is mode 1 not allowed in the UK anymore? I read this in an article done by IET Wiring matter "According to a note in IEC 61851 Mode 1 charging is not permitted in the UK". If so why is it still in the regs?


Thanks.


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    Around nine years ago I installed a socket on the back wall of a house for a hot tub.


    It turned into a one off job, the hot tub needed a 49 amp supply, it was going right by a river and was at risk from flooding so the tub needed to be able to be moved quickly, also there is the possibility the socket could be used to supply a boat, so I ended up installing a 63-amp interlocking socket and recording the deviation on the certificate.


    Unfortunately when there was a flood the tub wasn’t moved and the last time I saw the tub it was tied to a tree and bobbing up and down in the river. Best laid plans and all that.

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    Do we see piles of dead bodies on caravan sites by B.S. 4343 unshuttered sockets? They have been successfully used for years.


    I will use 553.1.5 (iii) get out of jail card and use a B.S. 4343 socket for heavy loads to reduce risks. Along with 133.1.3.


    Common sense must be used in such circumstances.


    Z.
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    Simon Barker:

    BS546 15A plug/socket?  That would handle 10A all day without getting warm.  You can even get shuttered versions of them.


    Yes, Crabtree 15A 1 Gang Single Shuttered Switched Socket White (2382) | CEF


    Z.


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    Can we obtain 15 Amp round pin plugs with sleeved live pins?

    Black 3 Pin, 15A Round UK Mains Plug (farnell.com)


    Z.
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    Chris Pearson:
    gkenyon:


    I have a 16 A BS EN 60309-2 socket-outlet in my detached garage, but I've taken a decision it's not "household and similar use" because it's for my welder which specifically states it can't be used with a BS 1363-1 plug.


    However, I'm sure there will be people who disagree with my decision and will say that the garage is part of the household ...


    I am glad that a recognised authority of Graham's standing says that - I have 16 A and 32 A SP and TP sockets in my garage. I started with a 16 A SP one for a compressor whose start-up current blows 13 A fuses and then I got carried away. ?


    There may be no shutters, but the spring-loaded covers do provide some measure of protection.


    Presumably, BS 546 sockets are shuttered nowadays.




    Could the spring loaded cover be considered as a "shutter?"


    B.S. 7671 does not seem to have a definition of a socket "shutter" that I can find.


    Z.


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    Zoomup:
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    Could the spring loaded cover be considered as a "shutter?"


    B.S. 7671 does not seem to have a definition of a socket "shutter" that I can find.


    Z.




    Not if it's been snapped off. It's really a lid for dust-protection, rather than a shutter.


    Having said that, an interlocked isolator version to BS EN 60309-4 is certainly no less safe than a socket-outlet with shutters.


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