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13A Socket below and to the rear of a dual fuel stove with rear vent

Charles Carter

We have a motorhome that had a dual fuel stove (3x gas & 1x electric ring and electric fan oven) and the 13A socket has been installed on the wall below the oven section of the stove.  The sides of the stove go all the way to the floor.  Because it's got a gas grill and oven there is  vent at the rear of the hob to allow excess heat to escape from the rear of the stove.

The socket is 100mm above the floor but the floor is vented to the outside to comply with the gas regulations so I think the height shouldn't be an issue.

The issue is when a pan boils over the liquid can get down the back of the stove and onto the 13A socket which trips the RCD.  The manufacture claims the motorhome has passed all the relevant electrical checks but to me this just doesn't seam correct. 

Is there a regulations / compliance  document that would cover this installation and, if not compliant, could be used to encourage the manufacturer to perform a modification to make the installation compliant?

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    There  is (perhaps unsurprising) no electrical reg that specifically calls up 13A sockets behind ovens in caravans

    There are more general catch all clauses  about good workmanship and things being installed in a way suitable for the environment, but you can argue the exact meaning of that all day, and some folk will.

    However, clearly in practice there is a problem, and perhaps spilling things on the stove is something that could have been foreseen in the design.

    Mean while, is the plug ever removed from the socket, or would it have been better hard wired,

    (https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/CB4506.html)

     or is there scope to do something with some mastic to at least seal the socket body to the wall ?

    Really it sounds like it needs a better location

    Mike

     

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    There  is (perhaps unsurprising) no electrical reg that specifically calls up 13A sockets behind ovens in caravans

    There are more general catch all clauses  about good workmanship and things being installed in a way suitable for the environment, but you can argue the exact meaning of that all day, and some folk will.

    However, clearly in practice there is a problem, and perhaps spilling things on the stove is something that could have been foreseen in the design.

    Mean while, is the plug ever removed from the socket, or would it have been better hard wired,

    (https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/CB4506.html)

     or is there scope to do something with some mastic to at least seal the socket body to the wall ?

    Really it sounds like it needs a better location

    Mike

     

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