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Rather than hijack an existing thread I thought a new thread might better serve.

A few times I have stated my dislike of the way some folk few acceptance of installations undertaken to earlier editions of our "Regs" being compared to installtions being done very recently.

For those of you (if any) who are not aware of my stance I will repeat it (Yes again, sorry folks).

When doing an EICR/PIR a defect is noted and if that defect was compliant at the time of the actual install then some would not code it at all or perhaps code it more leniently.

I say this is very silly.

A defect should be recorded and if you think it sufficiently impacts on "safety"  (relative safety reallY) then should be coded as appropriate.

We I & T to todays standard and compare it to that.

We might reasonably consider how safe/unsafe we perceive it to be if we compare it to things past.

Those of us who are older and remember earlier Editions of Regs might ,admitadley, be less severe with our coding than a more newbie electrician. That should not be the case but in reality it might well be. We often use that as a mental reference to effect our perception of "safety".

However, no relevance in coding different outcomes should ever be based purely upon the install date (therefore Reg Edition in force at that particular time). It must be purely based on how it compares with our standards now.

So quick answers as to what items we would have not felt aprehensive about in days gone but might concern us a bit more nowadays?

I`ll start of with inclusion of RCDs and Bonding presence/sizing.

Any more?

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  • It’s not just the private rented sector where there’s issue:

    • 25% of social housing properties do not have the Government’s recommended five electrical safety features (PVC wiring, modern earthing, a modern consumer unit, MCB [miniature circuit board] and RCD [residual current device]) and installed.
    • 12% of social housing properties failed the Government’s Decent Homes criteria.

     

    https://www.electricalsafetyroundtable.co.uk/social-housing.asps

    I was doing EICRs for a Housing Association and they had replaced all the consumer units on one of the estates, but it really was getting to the point where they needed to bite the bullet and get every house on the estate rewired as the existing installations really were not fit for purpose. If they have not done it yet there maintenance bill must be going through the roof. 

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  • It’s not just the private rented sector where there’s issue:

    • 25% of social housing properties do not have the Government’s recommended five electrical safety features (PVC wiring, modern earthing, a modern consumer unit, MCB [miniature circuit board] and RCD [residual current device]) and installed.
    • 12% of social housing properties failed the Government’s Decent Homes criteria.

     

    https://www.electricalsafetyroundtable.co.uk/social-housing.asps

    I was doing EICRs for a Housing Association and they had replaced all the consumer units on one of the estates, but it really was getting to the point where they needed to bite the bullet and get every house on the estate rewired as the existing installations really were not fit for purpose. If they have not done it yet there maintenance bill must be going through the roof. 

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