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Electrical Competency, what is it?

I want to move to a slightly different branch of the EICR question, and this should cover the range of Electrical work. What makes an Electrician Competent? What makes an Inspector competent, whether for an EICR or EICs?

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  • Edit - woops - this reply was posted at the same time as the one above mine - which echos much of what I'm saying below…..

     

    I think maybe it gets a bit more complicated than all of the above replies - I think I'm certainly competent in some basic areas but certainly not in others - there's too much industry specific detail that I've forgotten or not kept abreast of, is new, I never knew in the first place, such as the electrical parts of Rail, Sewerage, Petrol, gas, Clean water - Rail, Clean and dirty water - I have spent at least a year each installing in these environments, I've been working around, had to consider and implement the health and safety parts, and been inspected by umteen different people after we have finished the job. Some of those environments, wow, you can take some pride in your work. nothing short of perfect is accepted. 

    But I know enough to know, what I don't know enough of, to be a competent inspector on these areas now. And there are a million other areas just like this. 

    My qualifications have an AM2 hole in it - so I cant get a JIB gold card

    I don't have a degree, or a specific management qualification so cant get a JIB black card

    I've been an NICEIC QS for 13 years - mostly in commercial contracts for my own company. Very small micro company, where a lot of the time I'm doing the actual work alongside my small team. 

    I've got the C&G Lvl 1&2 - no one mentioned anything about AM2 - did it even exist in the early 2000s? and from 2003, the 2391 Inspection and testing and later the 2396 Design, plus 20 odd years of experience. 

    JIB would say I'm not competent. 

    NICEIC would say that I am. Who's criteria to apply? 

     

    Unfortunately because we as electricians have not, historically, followed an homogenous route to being qualified, it is very difficult to set a base standard now, just for the use of the term qualified - let alone competent. Being a part of the NICEIC AC is supposed to reassure people about the very question. Perhaps inspectors should only be allowed to inspect if they're registered as an individual with a governing body? (I can see the money rolling in for that, and what happens when an inspector joins and leaves a company or wants to inspect this sector of electrics or that? For surely he/she's not competent to do it all. So do we then break it down still further? Its going to be a quagmire for sure. 

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  • Edit - woops - this reply was posted at the same time as the one above mine - which echos much of what I'm saying below…..

     

    I think maybe it gets a bit more complicated than all of the above replies - I think I'm certainly competent in some basic areas but certainly not in others - there's too much industry specific detail that I've forgotten or not kept abreast of, is new, I never knew in the first place, such as the electrical parts of Rail, Sewerage, Petrol, gas, Clean water - Rail, Clean and dirty water - I have spent at least a year each installing in these environments, I've been working around, had to consider and implement the health and safety parts, and been inspected by umteen different people after we have finished the job. Some of those environments, wow, you can take some pride in your work. nothing short of perfect is accepted. 

    But I know enough to know, what I don't know enough of, to be a competent inspector on these areas now. And there are a million other areas just like this. 

    My qualifications have an AM2 hole in it - so I cant get a JIB gold card

    I don't have a degree, or a specific management qualification so cant get a JIB black card

    I've been an NICEIC QS for 13 years - mostly in commercial contracts for my own company. Very small micro company, where a lot of the time I'm doing the actual work alongside my small team. 

    I've got the C&G Lvl 1&2 - no one mentioned anything about AM2 - did it even exist in the early 2000s? and from 2003, the 2391 Inspection and testing and later the 2396 Design, plus 20 odd years of experience. 

    JIB would say I'm not competent. 

    NICEIC would say that I am. Who's criteria to apply? 

     

    Unfortunately because we as electricians have not, historically, followed an homogenous route to being qualified, it is very difficult to set a base standard now, just for the use of the term qualified - let alone competent. Being a part of the NICEIC AC is supposed to reassure people about the very question. Perhaps inspectors should only be allowed to inspect if they're registered as an individual with a governing body? (I can see the money rolling in for that, and what happens when an inspector joins and leaves a company or wants to inspect this sector of electrics or that? For surely he/she's not competent to do it all. So do we then break it down still further? Its going to be a quagmire for sure. 

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