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Hello I have a fuseboard with fuses specifying BSEN60898 on them. Is the fuseboard compatible with the EICR or do I need to replace it?

  • No fuse has such a designation. Perhaps you mean circuit breaker? Fuses are BS 3036 or BS 88.

    Do you have anything in your ‘fusebox’ with the number BS 61008 or BS 4923? If not, then it may be a good idea to replace.

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    thanks, I will check.

  • I don't think “compatible with the EICR” is really a meaningful concept.

    If something is obsolete, but still safe to use, then at worst it will get a C3, which nobody really cares about.  If it isn't safe to continue to use, it will get a C2 or C1, either of which is essentially a “fail”.

  • specifying BSEN60898 on them. Is the fuseboard compatible with the EICR or do I need to replace it?

    BS EN 60898 is the current up-to-date standard for miniature circuit breakers (MCBs) - so nothing wrong there. That's not to say that the installation or even the consumer unit (fuse box) is up to current standards though. These days some circuits should have RCD protection as well as MCBs (e.g. devices to BS EN 61008 or BS EN 61009) and in some circumstances a lack of those could result in an EICR ‘unsatisfactory’.

       - Andy.

  • More info is needed - where is this ‘fuse board’ (which as others have said is probably really a box of circuit breakers with those numbers ) . 

    Is it's condition suitable for the location (signs of damp /mechanical damage/missing covers or screws/  finger sized holes  would all be bad ).

    What is it supplying, and as others have raised are their RCDs as well to consider.  Or post a photo .

     

    An EICR is not really about looking for the presence or absence of some printed numbers, though that may help a more accurate installation date to be decided. The question is more if it looks to be safe for continued use until the next inspection, or does it need some improvement - that is a many sided question.

    Mike.

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    thanks for the advice. this is useful for me to know before inviting for quotes for works.

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    HI Simon, I automatically assumed that given C1 and C2 (and F1) are non compliant/not-safe, EICR picks the matter for that. Of course, there could be philosophical discussion around that but I think I had very useful feedback so far.

  • Goktug: 
     

    Hello I have a fuseboard with fuses specifying BSEN60898 on them. Is the fuseboard compatible with the EICR or do I need to replace it?

     

    Do you have an old fuse board with plug in MCBs?

  • I automatically assumed that given C1 and C2 (and F1) are non compliant/not-safe, EICR picks the matter for that.

    Just to ensure clarity (or perhaps just stating the bleedn obvious) - C1 & C2 are various kinds of not-safe, and in the absence of any more information FI (Further Investigation) should be treated similarly. That's not at all the same as non-compliances however. Some non-compliances (e.g. wiring that uses older colour codes for conductors) don't impact on the safety of users of the installation, so wouldn't attract a code at all, others might only be slightly detrimental to safety (e.g. lack of RCD additional protection for sockets feeding indoor equipment in dry areas) would often only attract a C3 and of itself not lead to an unsatisfactory EICR. Only the more severe non-compliances should lead to a C1 or C2.

       - Andy.