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Requirements for an electrical design & the EIC form signature

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I’ve read the interesting post at Who is the electrical installation designer? - IET Engineering Communities (theiet.org) on “Who is the electrical installation designer?” but my thought is somewhat different else I would have tagged onto that thread.

I’ve also read the posts at  Electrical Design Courses & Regulations Recommendations (London, UK) - IET Engineering Communities (theiet.org) regarding the training and competence needed for electrical design and having been involved in electrical works for a considerable period am familiar with the significance of this role. Indeed, when I ask for new works of a small size direct to an electrical contractor I always ensure that the wording of taking on board design liability is included, this such that they are clear and can also charge for that work and its responsibility.  Larger works may be by an electrical designer such as a consultant.

Considering that the EIC has an entry for design where it states:

FOR DESIGN

I/We being the person(s) responsible for the design of the electrical installation (as indicated by my/our signatures below), particulars of which are described above, having exercised reasonable skill and care when carrying out the design and additionally where this certificate applies to an add1t1on or alteration, the safety of the existing installation is not impaired, hereby CERTIFY that the design work for which I/we have been responsible is to the best of my/our knowledge and belief in accordance with BS 7671 :2018, amended to ….. except for the departures, if any, detailed .as follows:  

What extent of information do readers consider to constitute an electrical design ?   Much of my reference information is in my office and I’ve not been there for 18 months so I thought I’d ask others what they considered to be the minimum information as to what comprises an electrical design for an installation has rather than trawl through other sources.  I thought it would be an interesting discussion point as well.

Paul.  

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  • only a consultants plan showing locations of lights, heaters etc. with a statement that it must comply with the IEE Wiring Regulations (yes it said IEE and not IET) so it was being left to the contractor to design the electrical installation itself.   

    A pretty common state of affairs I would have thought. Probably comparable to a domestic customer simply asking for ‘an extra socket there please’ - after all they're not bothered if it's supplied from a spur, or the ring extended, or from a new circuit (except where it significantly affects the price) - they're happy to let their electrician use their professional judgement. Likewise designs are often not written down - after all if the design is straight forward and the designer and the installer are one and the same, communication can be implicit.

       - Andy.

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  • only a consultants plan showing locations of lights, heaters etc. with a statement that it must comply with the IEE Wiring Regulations (yes it said IEE and not IET) so it was being left to the contractor to design the electrical installation itself.   

    A pretty common state of affairs I would have thought. Probably comparable to a domestic customer simply asking for ‘an extra socket there please’ - after all they're not bothered if it's supplied from a spur, or the ring extended, or from a new circuit (except where it significantly affects the price) - they're happy to let their electrician use their professional judgement. Likewise designs are often not written down - after all if the design is straight forward and the designer and the installer are one and the same, communication can be implicit.

       - Andy.

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