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T-N-S or TN-C-S ???? Help pls.

I have been asked to replace a consumer unit. All seems fine, and the incoming earth seems to be on the sheath of the incomer, so, TN-S. But, it says TN-C-S on the previous EICR. Did that spark make a mistake or is there something here I'm missing? Also, do we presume the Line and Neutral are in that cable going to the meter??? I hope so… Thx in advance.

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  • But, it says TN-C-S on the previous EICR.

    I've seen that a few times now. My guess was (as Mike suggested) it's just acknowledging DNO advise that any DNO supplied earth terminal should be treated as if it were PME/TN-C-S (which most do these days). There's nothing in the definitions of TN-C-S to say that the N-PE has to be in the consumer's cut-out - there's merely a common convention. The N-PE link could be in the building incomer position (with the consumer's cut-out some distance a way in a flat for instance), or in a DNO feeder pillar outside that then supplies several consumers in the same overall building, or more often, the N-PE link is buried under a pavement somewhere where a joint has been added or a section of damaged cable replaced. Unless N and PE are completely separated all the way back to the substation it can't, by definition, be TN-S and thus it must be TN-C-S (if not TT).

       - Andy.

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  • But, it says TN-C-S on the previous EICR.

    I've seen that a few times now. My guess was (as Mike suggested) it's just acknowledging DNO advise that any DNO supplied earth terminal should be treated as if it were PME/TN-C-S (which most do these days). There's nothing in the definitions of TN-C-S to say that the N-PE has to be in the consumer's cut-out - there's merely a common convention. The N-PE link could be in the building incomer position (with the consumer's cut-out some distance a way in a flat for instance), or in a DNO feeder pillar outside that then supplies several consumers in the same overall building, or more often, the N-PE link is buried under a pavement somewhere where a joint has been added or a section of damaged cable replaced. Unless N and PE are completely separated all the way back to the substation it can't, by definition, be TN-S and thus it must be TN-C-S (if not TT).

       - Andy.

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