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Diversity and the resilience of circuit protection.

Following a report from a well respected Contributor here, I've been tasked with sorting out a few problems in a house.

One of them is a good lesson in diversity for cooking appliances.

A 45 amp circuit breaker, 6mm T+E cable, running in some patches of insulation, so a nominal 34 amps current carrying capacity. Probably a little more, as the insulation is not continuous, and is patchy in the void the cable runs through.

This cable supplies 6 appliances. Oven 3.6kW, hob 6.2kW,frying plate 2.4kW, large microwave 2.6kW, Steamer 5.6kW and a warming drawer at 0.7kW. A total nominal rating of 94kW.

With the current diversity guidance in the OSG, this install complies (forgetting about the overloaded cable) with the hob at 10 amps, and the rest at 30% of their rating, giving a total of 32 amps but it just doesn't feel right. To get a little better control, and fault reduction, I had intended to put 2 extra new supplies in, to divide them up, I've since put one supply in, but the second one is getting rather difficult to install without taking apart the kitchen.

The oven (16amp) was on a plugtop, with no signs of overheating, or reports of problems from the householder. A 20 amp DP switch, which supplied the steamer, microwave and drawer did show a little heat damage, though that could well have been a loose connection.

So it goes back to the pragmatic view, how much can a small family cook at the same time, and there we have the diversity. They say there are 2 hob rings they never use, the fryer is rarely used etc. So the typical load is less than 3kW once the oven has warmed up.

Even with the Christmas day dinner cooking, I cannot see much more than 30 amps being pulled for a short period, hence no overheating of the cable, and no tripping of the circuit.

The circuit breakers are now 32 amps.

I heard a whisper that guidance on Diversity is changing, has anyone else heard what may be changing? 

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  • OK, we have some ideas. Let's try something else. I am designing a factory electrical installation, the added up nameplate consumption of all the metal cutting machines is 500 kVA. What size supply, distribution, etc. should I choose? There are machining centres, lathes, milling machines and similar all over the place. It may reasonably be expected that they will all be used at once, some automatic ones 24 hours a day. In some ways, this is quite comparable with the kitchen problem. I decide on a main board and a number of submains around the floor each fed from an MCCB, each of the sub-boards will feed a local group of machines. Nothing unusual there. Should I allow any diversity, and how much? The question is to consider the real load, and why it is very unlikely to ever be 500 kVA. Something to keep you awake tonight!

    Some might like to compare a domestic and commercial kitchen in the same way. In reality, how are they different?

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  • OK, we have some ideas. Let's try something else. I am designing a factory electrical installation, the added up nameplate consumption of all the metal cutting machines is 500 kVA. What size supply, distribution, etc. should I choose? There are machining centres, lathes, milling machines and similar all over the place. It may reasonably be expected that they will all be used at once, some automatic ones 24 hours a day. In some ways, this is quite comparable with the kitchen problem. I decide on a main board and a number of submains around the floor each fed from an MCCB, each of the sub-boards will feed a local group of machines. Nothing unusual there. Should I allow any diversity, and how much? The question is to consider the real load, and why it is very unlikely to ever be 500 kVA. Something to keep you awake tonight!

    Some might like to compare a domestic and commercial kitchen in the same way. In reality, how are they different?

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