Hello,
I recieved an EICR for my Private Rented property from the landord. However, the post code of the address is wrong. Is the EICR still valid? It was done over a year ago, so Is it allowed to be corrected via just changing the post code or do the whole electrics need to be retested/inspected?
Sadly I suspect there are quite a lot of properties a bit like this at the less scrupulous end of the market. If there were not we would not need regulations / legislation.
The electrics are a small part of a bigger picture here. The socket coming undone is not really an electrical matter, more of a joinery/ general builder issue though it needs doing with some thought not to screw through the cables ;-)
However the mis labelled breakers are exactly the sort of thing that should get picked up/ corrected at inspection time, and it should be an easy job for a competent sparks- it is no more complex that turning each breaker off in turn and noting what stops working, and correcting the labels to match. I'd like to think that the 6A ones are lights and the others are various higher power things, but given what you say, you never know.
There is no RCD or SPD at all, so I am not sure how that was ever tested. And yet 4.10, 4.18 4.19 etc are ‘pass’
Should be “fail” and then some debate about C3 - improvement recommended or C2 potential danger that depends on other factors.
Given the absence of an RCD, that tripping you mentioned can only be a gross overload, so perhaps the cooker or shower shares one breaker with the sockets, and it all stops when fully loaded up.
In any case, not good.
Basically apart from the missing stetson and horse this inspection has a slight ‘cowboy’ appearance. I hope the inspection was reassuringly cheap.
It is not at all unreasonable to expect your sparks to have some qualifications, and to be quite candid about what level that is, or not. Now there are many levels of city and guilds certificates for various things, and the exact course details have changed over the years.
For this reason an absence of one or the other is not necessarily a mark of total competence - but there should be no embarrassment in asking what education/training and when…
If anything to inspect well requires a rather higher level of understanding than just installation, as the inspector has to understand whatever is there already, regardless of complexity not just blindly follow the makers instructions, which are normally lost come inspection time.
(Just personally I have to say that, as I too would be seen incompetent by some more modern paper trail measures ;-) not being a member of any self certification scheme nor a holder of the latest 18th regs exam, as for the day job it is not actually needed . )
Mike.
Sadly I suspect there are quite a lot of properties a bit like this at the less scrupulous end of the market. If there were not we would not need regulations / legislation.
The electrics are a small part of a bigger picture here. The socket coming undone is not really an electrical matter, more of a joinery/ general builder issue though it needs doing with some thought not to screw through the cables ;-)
However the mis labelled breakers are exactly the sort of thing that should get picked up/ corrected at inspection time, and it should be an easy job for a competent sparks- it is no more complex that turning each breaker off in turn and noting what stops working, and correcting the labels to match. I'd like to think that the 6A ones are lights and the others are various higher power things, but given what you say, you never know.
There is no RCD or SPD at all, so I am not sure how that was ever tested. And yet 4.10, 4.18 4.19 etc are ‘pass’
Should be “fail” and then some debate about C3 - improvement recommended or C2 potential danger that depends on other factors.
Given the absence of an RCD, that tripping you mentioned can only be a gross overload, so perhaps the cooker or shower shares one breaker with the sockets, and it all stops when fully loaded up.
In any case, not good.
Basically apart from the missing stetson and horse this inspection has a slight ‘cowboy’ appearance. I hope the inspection was reassuringly cheap.
It is not at all unreasonable to expect your sparks to have some qualifications, and to be quite candid about what level that is, or not. Now there are many levels of city and guilds certificates for various things, and the exact course details have changed over the years.
For this reason an absence of one or the other is not necessarily a mark of total competence - but there should be no embarrassment in asking what education/training and when…
If anything to inspect well requires a rather higher level of understanding than just installation, as the inspector has to understand whatever is there already, regardless of complexity not just blindly follow the makers instructions, which are normally lost come inspection time.
(Just personally I have to say that, as I too would be seen incompetent by some more modern paper trail measures ;-) not being a member of any self certification scheme nor a holder of the latest 18th regs exam, as for the day job it is not actually needed . )
Mike.
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