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Metal Class 2 Wall Lights.

I was testing some chrome wall lights today for earthing. They were not earthed. I could not tell initially if they were Class 1 or 2. I took one off its stirrup wall bracket and had a look behind the base plate. A label inside confirmed that it was a Class 2 light fitting.

But, the choc blocks floating about in the metal circular base, and the metal wall bracket could theoretically liven up the fitting if a strand of conductor was left by the installer, and it touched the metal parts. This home has no R.C.D. protection at all.

There must be many such wall lights about.

Z.

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  • Grumpy: 
     

    So what is your risk assesment there Zoom?

    Likelihood of your theoretical fault occuring? Pretty low I would venture.

    Consequences of touching a livened up chrome light fitting? Surprising but unlikely to be fatal.

    And as you say, pretty common, so where are the corpses?

    The risk of shock should be minimised by earthing the said light fitting I say.

    The risk of fatality will be increased if the fitting becomes live, as there will be no way of knowing that until it is too late, perhaps when somebody touches the live metal light whilst also in contact with an earthed radiator. This is especially dangerous in old non R.C.D. protected installations.

    We certainly don't want to see piles of bodies, we don't want to see even one fatality do we?

    As John Donne said:

    "Any man's death diminishes me because I am involved in Mankind. And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls: it tolls for thee.

    "Mary Wherry, the Daughter of MP Jenny Tonge was tragically killed when she was electrocuted in her own home.

    The circumstances of her death were a direct result of shoddy workmanship and bad luck. A new kitchen had been fitted in her home back in 1999. 2 years later her husband had fitted a drainer below the extractor fan. A cable connected to the fan had been fitted at a 5 degree angle meaning it veered into an area he did not expect it to be. When he screwed the drainer into the wall the screw was left almost touching the wire. As the drainer moved slightly over the years it finally came into contact with the wire electrifying it.  This in itself would not usually result in a deadly shock, however Mrs Wherry's shock proved fatal because her leg was touching a metal-fronted dishwasher door, completing the circuit."

     

    Z.

     

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  • Grumpy: 
     

    So what is your risk assesment there Zoom?

    Likelihood of your theoretical fault occuring? Pretty low I would venture.

    Consequences of touching a livened up chrome light fitting? Surprising but unlikely to be fatal.

    And as you say, pretty common, so where are the corpses?

    The risk of shock should be minimised by earthing the said light fitting I say.

    The risk of fatality will be increased if the fitting becomes live, as there will be no way of knowing that until it is too late, perhaps when somebody touches the live metal light whilst also in contact with an earthed radiator. This is especially dangerous in old non R.C.D. protected installations.

    We certainly don't want to see piles of bodies, we don't want to see even one fatality do we?

    As John Donne said:

    "Any man's death diminishes me because I am involved in Mankind. And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls: it tolls for thee.

    "Mary Wherry, the Daughter of MP Jenny Tonge was tragically killed when she was electrocuted in her own home.

    The circumstances of her death were a direct result of shoddy workmanship and bad luck. A new kitchen had been fitted in her home back in 1999. 2 years later her husband had fitted a drainer below the extractor fan. A cable connected to the fan had been fitted at a 5 degree angle meaning it veered into an area he did not expect it to be. When he screwed the drainer into the wall the screw was left almost touching the wire. As the drainer moved slightly over the years it finally came into contact with the wire electrifying it.  This in itself would not usually result in a deadly shock, however Mrs Wherry's shock proved fatal because her leg was touching a metal-fronted dishwasher door, completing the circuit."

     

    Z.

     

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