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Farm TT quandary

I have been asked to replace the  existing damaged T&E switched supply to a light in a steel framed barn on a farm and extend the switched supply to two adjoining steel frame barns and put a flood light in each. 

The light supply and switch are in a nearby old brick built building, the main supply is three phase PME without any RCD protection and the barns are used to house cattle (approx 100) . The steel support posts (22) are set in concrete in holes dug into sandstone. The barn floors are concrete on sandstone and will have straw bedding on top which gets wet.

I am going to stick an RCD in the supply to the lights. TT ing the farm is not an option.

My quandary is what is the least risk option:

1- Ignore BS7671 and keep the metalwork isolated from the supply earth as at present due to the risk of step voltage in the event of a lost neutral. Recently a DNO contractor did manage to loose a phase while working on a supply pole, but the barn metalwork will be extraneous so not a compliant solution,

2- Treat the metalwork (22 support posts) as the TT earth with the risk of step voltage around the posts until the  RCD trips;

3- TT the barn lighting circuit with a separate earth. It will very very difficult  to get a Ra lower than the barn supports due to the sandstone around most of the farm so potential for step voltages again and problem of finding an accessible place away from animals;

4 Just bond everything to the PME earth, hope the number of posts reduces the step voltages around each to a low level and accept the risks, or

4 - Something else  I have not thought of ?

I would normally use SWA and there is a 8 metre catenary involved, can anyone  recommend a better alternative as it will be close to 30M across three barns. Even though I will be in a cage on a tele handler I am not keen on trying to install SWA along the roof beams over 20ft up if there is an easier option, I will be using girder clips to secure the cable.

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  • Coming back to the touch voltage on TT-TN mixes, it is not the N-CPC impedance in the loop divisor, it is the DNO side electrodes, so relative to the local terra-firma the L voltage will dip, by the amount that the neutral/PEN gets pulled away from terra-firmw earth.

    Not perhaps in this case with several houses plumbing augmenting the DNO earthing of the neutral, but in many rural cases the DNO earth is not much better than the customer one, so during fault the L_N voltage does not depress, but if you have a 10 ohm electrode resitance and so does the DNO, the whole 3 phase triangle of voltages goes walkabout.

    I'm also for option 2 by the way, and it does not have to be SWA if it is visible route.

    Mike.

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  • Coming back to the touch voltage on TT-TN mixes, it is not the N-CPC impedance in the loop divisor, it is the DNO side electrodes, so relative to the local terra-firma the L voltage will dip, by the amount that the neutral/PEN gets pulled away from terra-firmw earth.

    Not perhaps in this case with several houses plumbing augmenting the DNO earthing of the neutral, but in many rural cases the DNO earth is not much better than the customer one, so during fault the L_N voltage does not depress, but if you have a 10 ohm electrode resitance and so does the DNO, the whole 3 phase triangle of voltages goes walkabout.

    I'm also for option 2 by the way, and it does not have to be SWA if it is visible route.

    Mike.

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