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Farm TT quandary

I have been asked to replace the  existing damaged T&E switched supply to a light in a steel framed barn on a farm and extend the switched supply to two adjoining steel frame barns and put a flood light in each. 

The light supply and switch are in a nearby old brick built building, the main supply is three phase PME without any RCD protection and the barns are used to house cattle (approx 100) . The steel support posts (22) are set in concrete in holes dug into sandstone. The barn floors are concrete on sandstone and will have straw bedding on top which gets wet.

I am going to stick an RCD in the supply to the lights. TT ing the farm is not an option.

My quandary is what is the least risk option:

1- Ignore BS7671 and keep the metalwork isolated from the supply earth as at present due to the risk of step voltage in the event of a lost neutral. Recently a DNO contractor did manage to loose a phase while working on a supply pole, but the barn metalwork will be extraneous so not a compliant solution,

2- Treat the metalwork (22 support posts) as the TT earth with the risk of step voltage around the posts until the  RCD trips;

3- TT the barn lighting circuit with a separate earth. It will very very difficult  to get a Ra lower than the barn supports due to the sandstone around most of the farm so potential for step voltages again and problem of finding an accessible place away from animals;

4 Just bond everything to the PME earth, hope the number of posts reduces the step voltages around each to a low level and accept the risks, or

4 - Something else  I have not thought of ?

I would normally use SWA and there is a 8 metre catenary involved, can anyone  recommend a better alternative as it will be close to 30M across three barns. Even though I will be in a cage on a tele handler I am not keen on trying to install SWA along the roof beams over 20ft up if there is an easier option, I will be using girder clips to secure the cable.

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  • As Mike and Graham correctly pointed out, I'd ignored Rb in my examples above.

    That wasn't entirely accidental though. Ra (your electrode or posts (in parallel) resistance to Earth) and Rb (the source's electrode's resistance to Earth) are in series and so the voltage is indeed divided across both - so when an Earth fault current is flowing a  voltage will develop across the supply electrode and thus the voltage across Ra is thus reduced by the same amount - making the consumer's installation somewhat safer. It is however hard to put a safe value on Rb - it's maximum is normally 20 Ohms but is often far lower. On a system that supplies TN customers as well, the supply PE/PEN is very likely to be bonded to many extraneous-conductive-parts and PME electrodes which effectively reduces Rb to much much lower values - often well below 1 Ohm. Ignoring Rb (or rather presuming it's effectively zero) simply errs on the side of safety by working to the worst case.

       - Andy.

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  • As Mike and Graham correctly pointed out, I'd ignored Rb in my examples above.

    That wasn't entirely accidental though. Ra (your electrode or posts (in parallel) resistance to Earth) and Rb (the source's electrode's resistance to Earth) are in series and so the voltage is indeed divided across both - so when an Earth fault current is flowing a  voltage will develop across the supply electrode and thus the voltage across Ra is thus reduced by the same amount - making the consumer's installation somewhat safer. It is however hard to put a safe value on Rb - it's maximum is normally 20 Ohms but is often far lower. On a system that supplies TN customers as well, the supply PE/PEN is very likely to be bonded to many extraneous-conductive-parts and PME electrodes which effectively reduces Rb to much much lower values - often well below 1 Ohm. Ignoring Rb (or rather presuming it's effectively zero) simply errs on the side of safety by working to the worst case.

       - Andy.

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