The IET is carrying out some important updates between 17-30 April and all of our websites will be view only. For more information, read this Announcement

This discussion is locked.
You cannot post a reply to this discussion. If you have a question start a new discussion

18th Edition training is it only for electricians?

I am writing to request assistance from a technical query related to 18th Edition Wiring regulation. I am told that this training is only for electricians and no other engineers. Is this correct?

What it is, I am a qualified Electrical Engineer from academics in HV and energy engineering and never worked on LV installations or related where some digging involvement required too before then. In my employment, my electrical manager who was also HV and LV qualified booked me on the 18th edition training but then he left and another manager I was given who is Mechanical  has said that the 18th edition is for electricians or NVQ only and that my academics qualifications are enough and that I should carry the LV installations works but I am not comfortable because I have not worked on LV installations as such and concerns of H&S. He is saying that I don't need the training at all because I have a master in HV engineering and I tried to explain that they are not the same and regulations are different but not listened too. Could you assist with this and provide your comment from a professional point of view?  That means he want to take me off this training and that I should not attend this training?

My background is: A qualified Electrical Power Engineer with no LV installations background or related, would this not be reasonable to attend? or would academic and HV qualification mean that the person can carry out 18th edition LV installation works on industrial or domestic type of environment without the 18th edition?

Parents
  • Martine Dushime: 
     

    I am writing to request assistance from a technical query related to 18th Edition Wiring regulation. I am told that this training is only for electricians and no other engineers. Is this correct?

    What it is, I am a qualified Electrical Engineer from academics in HV and energy engineering and never worked on LV installations or related where some digging involvement required too before then. In my employment, my electrical manager who was also HV and LV qualified booked me on the 18th edition training but then he left and another manager I was given who is Mechanical  has said that the 18th edition is for electricians or NVQ only and that my academics qualifications are enough and that I should carry the LV installations works but I am not comfortable because I have not worked on LV installations as such and concerns of H&S. He is saying that I don't need the training at all because I have a master in HV engineering and I tried to explain that they are not the same and regulations are different but not listened too. Could you assist with this and provide your comment from a professional point of view?  That means he want to take me off this training and that I should not attend this training?

    My background is: A qualified Electrical Power Engineer with no LV installations background or related, would this not be reasonable to attend? or would academic and HV qualification mean that the person can carry out 18th edition LV installation works on industrial or domestic type of environment without the 18th edition?

    I'm a degree-qualified electrical engineering consultant, but I'm also aware that qualifications and experience don't tell you what's in BS 7671. 

    The standard is now 100s of pages long … if you are to have any involvement with working on, or compliance of, LV installations, I would recommend a course on how the standard is laid out, its main objectives, and how to find things in it that relate to the work you are doing, which is what the City & Guilds 238x courses are all about. Over the course of my career, there have been 4 major versions of the standard, and I did C&G courses covering each of them: 

    • BS 7671:1992 (16th Edition IEE Wiring Regulations, Red Cover)
    • BS 7671:2001 (16th Edition IEE Wiring Regulations, Blue Cover)
    • BS 7671:2008 (17th Edition IET Wiring Regulations, Red Cover)
    • BS 7671:2018 (18th Edition IET Wiring Regulations, Blue Cover)


    If you are new to the standard, it may benefit, the first time you are doing it, a course that is longer duration, say equivalent to 5 days of learning, for a more in-depth explanation of some topics.

Reply
  • Martine Dushime: 
     

    I am writing to request assistance from a technical query related to 18th Edition Wiring regulation. I am told that this training is only for electricians and no other engineers. Is this correct?

    What it is, I am a qualified Electrical Engineer from academics in HV and energy engineering and never worked on LV installations or related where some digging involvement required too before then. In my employment, my electrical manager who was also HV and LV qualified booked me on the 18th edition training but then he left and another manager I was given who is Mechanical  has said that the 18th edition is for electricians or NVQ only and that my academics qualifications are enough and that I should carry the LV installations works but I am not comfortable because I have not worked on LV installations as such and concerns of H&S. He is saying that I don't need the training at all because I have a master in HV engineering and I tried to explain that they are not the same and regulations are different but not listened too. Could you assist with this and provide your comment from a professional point of view?  That means he want to take me off this training and that I should not attend this training?

    My background is: A qualified Electrical Power Engineer with no LV installations background or related, would this not be reasonable to attend? or would academic and HV qualification mean that the person can carry out 18th edition LV installation works on industrial or domestic type of environment without the 18th edition?

    I'm a degree-qualified electrical engineering consultant, but I'm also aware that qualifications and experience don't tell you what's in BS 7671. 

    The standard is now 100s of pages long … if you are to have any involvement with working on, or compliance of, LV installations, I would recommend a course on how the standard is laid out, its main objectives, and how to find things in it that relate to the work you are doing, which is what the City & Guilds 238x courses are all about. Over the course of my career, there have been 4 major versions of the standard, and I did C&G courses covering each of them: 

    • BS 7671:1992 (16th Edition IEE Wiring Regulations, Red Cover)
    • BS 7671:2001 (16th Edition IEE Wiring Regulations, Blue Cover)
    • BS 7671:2008 (17th Edition IET Wiring Regulations, Red Cover)
    • BS 7671:2018 (18th Edition IET Wiring Regulations, Blue Cover)


    If you are new to the standard, it may benefit, the first time you are doing it, a course that is longer duration, say equivalent to 5 days of learning, for a more in-depth explanation of some topics.

Children
No Data