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Ovens and 30A fuse/feed

Hello, I googled and found some info in the old IET forums, which has generated this post.

We need to replace our double oven. For the last 20 years, a 30A trip fuse has provided power to a dual wall socket (kettle 2.2kw, microwave 1.29kw) and the oven with a 5.1kw max rated power consumption. I've discovered this by tripping the 30A fuses in the fuse box to see which appliances were still live. 

It appears that when the kitchen was fitted (20 years ago), the original standalone cooker on/off master switch was converted to a dual wall socket and the then a spur used for the double oven.

According to my maths this is a total of 35.79A @ 240v which is more than 30A, although I'm guessing the times all three appliances have been on at the same time would be infrequent.

ApplianceLoad rating (kw)Amps (at 240v)
Current oven5.121.25
Kettle2.29.166666667
Microwave1.295.375
total8.5935.79166667

Why has the 30A RCD at the fusebox not tripped when they have been on at the same time?

The new oven has a load rating of 6.2kw. This increases the total amps to just over 40A. 

ApplianceLoad rating (kw)Amps (at 240v)
New oven6.225.83333333
Kettle2.29.166666667
Microwave1.295.375
total9.6940.375

I'm guessing this may cause some issues with the 30A feed. Would a more modern 32A be better?

I suppose I could always move the kettle and microwave to other sockets in the kitchen which are on a different 30A circuit.

Please could I have your comments? 

Thank you

Paul

 

 

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  • If you purchase an appliance then you hire an electrician to to connect and you pay for connecting it then OK so far.

    If the appliance is faulty then it is the responsibility of the retailer to cover cost of reconnection .

    You might offer them the choice or reimbursing you after the event or they provide the reconnection service.

    One case I had a couple of years back - A landlord had ordered a replacement oven and asked me to connect it. I attended and opened the box, topside of the chassis had a big dint in it. Actually the cardboard packaging had a big print of two bootmarks on it with wording not to stand on or place weight on it, pre-printed on packaging by the manufacturer. Actual mucky bootmarks on the cardboard almost exactly lined up with the printed ones - priceless. Why the packaging or appliance did not containing a supporting rib against this problem I have no idea.

    Anyway the landlord insisted on a replacement and reimbursement for my second visit, paid for by seller. Sometimes you might have to go to court but more often, if need be, getting Trading Standards involved works a treat

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  • If you purchase an appliance then you hire an electrician to to connect and you pay for connecting it then OK so far.

    If the appliance is faulty then it is the responsibility of the retailer to cover cost of reconnection .

    You might offer them the choice or reimbursing you after the event or they provide the reconnection service.

    One case I had a couple of years back - A landlord had ordered a replacement oven and asked me to connect it. I attended and opened the box, topside of the chassis had a big dint in it. Actually the cardboard packaging had a big print of two bootmarks on it with wording not to stand on or place weight on it, pre-printed on packaging by the manufacturer. Actual mucky bootmarks on the cardboard almost exactly lined up with the printed ones - priceless. Why the packaging or appliance did not containing a supporting rib against this problem I have no idea.

    Anyway the landlord insisted on a replacement and reimbursement for my second visit, paid for by seller. Sometimes you might have to go to court but more often, if need be, getting Trading Standards involved works a treat

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