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Current rating of twin 13 amp sockets ?

Is there any reliable information as to the current rating of a twin 13 amp socket.

Sounds simple enough, but views seem to differ. I was taught (decades ago) that a twin 13 amp socket manufactured to the relevant standards was suitable for a total load of 20 amps. And I recall that approval testing was done with 14 amps on one outlet and 6 amps on the other.

More recently though I recall respected members of this, and other forums, stating that the maximum total load is 13 amps and not 20 amps. And yes I know that 13 amp twin sockets  are marked “13 amps” on the back. But does this mean “maximum total load of 13 amps” or does it mean “intended to accept 13 amp plugs”

Any reliable views on this, preferably with a source.

And related to the above, I have heard that MK twin 13 amp sockets go beyond the minimum standards and are designed for a total loading of 26 amps. Can anyone confirm or deny this. And yes I have asked MK and have received several different answers !

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  • gkenyon: 
    Interesting nuance … do you always design every aspect of your electrical installations for the unexpected in the same way?

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    So, I'm not trying to be purposefully awkward, but the issue is that we have case law that leads us to the point that we need to account for the “next person off the Clapham Omnibus” and also that someone carrying out DIY has to exercise the same “skill and care" as a competent tradesperson doing the same job.

    Graham, what is the case law please?

    The law looks at foreseeability. I would suggest that plugging 2 x 13 A appliances into a 13 A socket is entirely foreseeable. The duty of care rests with the designer/installer/inspector, perhaps jointly and severally if not one and the same. If a house catches fire due to an overloaded double socket, causation seems be straightforward.

    So there we have it - an electrician might be negligent in installing double sockets anywhere that two high-current appliances may be plugged in.

    But we also have to consider the standard of care (Bolam). Would a reasonable body of competent electricians install double sockets?

    If there is case-law on this specific point, it would be interesting to read it.

    (Incidentally, I took the no. 49 Omnibus to Clapham 8 days ago. All of the passengers looked very ordinary.)

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  • gkenyon: 
    Interesting nuance … do you always design every aspect of your electrical installations for the unexpected in the same way?

    ________

     

    So, I'm not trying to be purposefully awkward, but the issue is that we have case law that leads us to the point that we need to account for the “next person off the Clapham Omnibus” and also that someone carrying out DIY has to exercise the same “skill and care" as a competent tradesperson doing the same job.

    Graham, what is the case law please?

    The law looks at foreseeability. I would suggest that plugging 2 x 13 A appliances into a 13 A socket is entirely foreseeable. The duty of care rests with the designer/installer/inspector, perhaps jointly and severally if not one and the same. If a house catches fire due to an overloaded double socket, causation seems be straightforward.

    So there we have it - an electrician might be negligent in installing double sockets anywhere that two high-current appliances may be plugged in.

    But we also have to consider the standard of care (Bolam). Would a reasonable body of competent electricians install double sockets?

    If there is case-law on this specific point, it would be interesting to read it.

    (Incidentally, I took the no. 49 Omnibus to Clapham 8 days ago. All of the passengers looked very ordinary.)

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