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Current rating of twin 13 amp sockets ?

Is there any reliable information as to the current rating of a twin 13 amp socket.

Sounds simple enough, but views seem to differ. I was taught (decades ago) that a twin 13 amp socket manufactured to the relevant standards was suitable for a total load of 20 amps. And I recall that approval testing was done with 14 amps on one outlet and 6 amps on the other.

More recently though I recall respected members of this, and other forums, stating that the maximum total load is 13 amps and not 20 amps. And yes I know that 13 amp twin sockets  are marked “13 amps” on the back. But does this mean “maximum total load of 13 amps” or does it mean “intended to accept 13 amp plugs”

Any reliable views on this, preferably with a source.

And related to the above, I have heard that MK twin 13 amp sockets go beyond the minimum standards and are designed for a total loading of 26 amps. Can anyone confirm or deny this. And yes I have asked MK and have received several different answers !

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  • Well Graham, I think that the blame should rest with the manufacturer and sale of goods act. It is illegal to sell something which is not fit, and this appears to be the case here. This is not changed in any way by a supposed specification, this is itself clearly not fit for purpose if a specified item burns (or goes black). The problem often appears to be the plug/fuse assembly as someone else stated above. Both are supposed to be made as compatible items, clearly, this in a few cases may not be true. But to suggest this is any way the installers fault seems very unsatisfactory. If you apply this to Grenfell tower, the cladding is entirely the fault of the installer, which is very far from true. It is very likely that the law will be changed as a result of the inquiry, which has found endless problems with the standards process as much as anything else.

    It seems to me that the suggestion that we change to single-socket radials for everything, and unfused plugs, is much worse than our present system. In my house I would need a 1000m of cable and 50 breakers for such a system, clearly, it is not fit for purpose, yet might save one fire per year according to your view. I doubt it as more equipment is bound to mean more risk.

    In my experience (40+years) it is very rare indeed for this “burning” to occur. If the EAWR is going to work in the way you suggest, there would be NO electricity in any workplace, because it is impossible to be SURE that this burning (slight colour change) will not happen. The answer is a proper maintenance regimen, not an outright ban. I note that you would ban soldering irons as a serious safety risk, that is perhaps why most electronics are made in China, and almost all our steelworks have closed! The EICR is such a regimen, it would be unnecessary if nothing could ever go wrong!

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  • Well Graham, I think that the blame should rest with the manufacturer and sale of goods act. It is illegal to sell something which is not fit, and this appears to be the case here. This is not changed in any way by a supposed specification, this is itself clearly not fit for purpose if a specified item burns (or goes black). The problem often appears to be the plug/fuse assembly as someone else stated above. Both are supposed to be made as compatible items, clearly, this in a few cases may not be true. But to suggest this is any way the installers fault seems very unsatisfactory. If you apply this to Grenfell tower, the cladding is entirely the fault of the installer, which is very far from true. It is very likely that the law will be changed as a result of the inquiry, which has found endless problems with the standards process as much as anything else.

    It seems to me that the suggestion that we change to single-socket radials for everything, and unfused plugs, is much worse than our present system. In my house I would need a 1000m of cable and 50 breakers for such a system, clearly, it is not fit for purpose, yet might save one fire per year according to your view. I doubt it as more equipment is bound to mean more risk.

    In my experience (40+years) it is very rare indeed for this “burning” to occur. If the EAWR is going to work in the way you suggest, there would be NO electricity in any workplace, because it is impossible to be SURE that this burning (slight colour change) will not happen. The answer is a proper maintenance regimen, not an outright ban. I note that you would ban soldering irons as a serious safety risk, that is perhaps why most electronics are made in China, and almost all our steelworks have closed! The EICR is such a regimen, it would be unnecessary if nothing could ever go wrong!

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