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Shower with no RCD or supplementary bonding

I have been round to a relatives flat and seen he has an old Wylex board with MCBs. His bathroom has no supplementary bonding from what I can see and no RCD protection for his electric shower. how potentially dangerous is this? I know the circuits are fairly short and can see main bonding in place Can only really think if the R2 values are low enough touch voltages should end up being kept low? 

 

 

 

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  • geoffsd: 
     

    Could someone please explain how the R<50/Ia actually affects anything and makes a difference?

    It's intended to keep the voltage between simultaneously-accessible exposed-conductive-parts at less than 50 V for faults that last up to 5 seconds (with Type B and Type C mcb's and RCBO's however, it's 50 V for faults above 0.1 seconds), so that if you are unfortunate enough to be touching the two parts when a fault occurs it is, to all intents and purposes less of a shock (pun certainly intended).

    It won't make a difference to someone in Zone 0 of a bath, but in general it provides a reasonable level of protection, effectively limiting the touch voltage for long-duration faults to ELV level (higher current, quicker operating time, but still well below the 230 V level so reasonable).

    In medical locations of Group 1 or Group 2, the resistance is modified to  0.2 ohms - but see also Regulation 710.411.3.2.5 where the voltage available between simultaneously accessible exposed- and/or extraneous-conductive-parts from a fault in a Group 1 or Group 2 medical location must be limited for ALL faults to 25 V AC or 60 V DC.

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  • geoffsd: 
     

    Could someone please explain how the R<50/Ia actually affects anything and makes a difference?

    It's intended to keep the voltage between simultaneously-accessible exposed-conductive-parts at less than 50 V for faults that last up to 5 seconds (with Type B and Type C mcb's and RCBO's however, it's 50 V for faults above 0.1 seconds), so that if you are unfortunate enough to be touching the two parts when a fault occurs it is, to all intents and purposes less of a shock (pun certainly intended).

    It won't make a difference to someone in Zone 0 of a bath, but in general it provides a reasonable level of protection, effectively limiting the touch voltage for long-duration faults to ELV level (higher current, quicker operating time, but still well below the 230 V level so reasonable).

    In medical locations of Group 1 or Group 2, the resistance is modified to  0.2 ohms - but see also Regulation 710.411.3.2.5 where the voltage available between simultaneously accessible exposed- and/or extraneous-conductive-parts from a fault in a Group 1 or Group 2 medical location must be limited for ALL faults to 25 V AC or 60 V DC.

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