Refusing Upgrade.

Sparkingchip: 
 

One day you will learn to say no.

Ditto to that one . Well said Sparkingchip

Zoomup: 
It's been all right since we moved in in 1973.

Would the same people drive a 1973 motor car? They would probably be mortified at the thought of no airbags, ABS, or power steering (so both hands properly on the wheel please); filthy emissions, etc. At least they would have had seat belts. 

I always compare old Wylex rewirable fuse boards to Ford Anglia‘s and Morris Minors, if you still had one you could go shopping or to the pub in it, but you would think twice about trying to drive to Cornwall at 70 mph down the motorway in it or trying to tow a caravan. 

The Anglia’s and Minor‘s are still useable, but lack the power and safety features of modern cars.

Wylex boards running 6Kw shower on a rewireable fuse and 7.2Kw on HRC (HBC As they were called back then) and not an RCD in sight , used to be quite common back in the day. Would you run one nowadays? An ELCB as it was called back then either voltage or current sensing you had a choice. Would you feel happier with one now? Perhaps the current operated ones? The anology with old cars is a good one, the old VW camper vans were a real breaker back in their heyday too. Compared to todays camper vans they are just exciting to a certain few

My first car was a Morris Minor (1956 vintage). The guy I bought it from thought I would just use it locally on the private mine roads where I worked in South Africa. I drove it all the way from Namaqualand to Cape Town and back (~800 miles). Had I known only one brake cylinder was operational and the hand brake not useable on hill more than about 1:40 I may have reconsidered such a journey.?. I was young and inexperienced but soon learnt a lot about car mechanics, grinding valve seats etc. I did too good a job on the engine ( brakes cyclinder seals all replaced by then) and managed to shear the crankshaft going 70mph. Fortunately no harm done to me and my next car was a year old ex rental Mazda 323 which managed superbly on 1000s of kilometres of rutted dirt roads of Southern Africa. Older and hopefully wiser now although my MTB riding might suggest otherwise. Cheers Andy

Holiday lets appear to fall within section 122(6) of the Housing and Planning Act 2016 “tenancy” includes a licence to occupy (and “landlord” is to be read accordingly)  and is not excluded by schedule 1 of The Electrical Safety Standards in the Private Rented Sector (England) Regulations 2020, so the ESSPRS(E)R apply. This requires the landlord to provide an EICR with no C1 or C2 defects. If you consider that not having an RCD would be a C2 defect (and it probably would be, especially if supplementary bonding is missing or inadequate), you could write to the client stating such and that you are copying your letter to the local council responsible for enforcing the regs. 

Owain: 
 

Holiday lets appear to fall within section 122(6) of the Housing and Planning Act 2016 “tenancy” includes a licence to occupy (and “landlord” is to be read accordingly)  and is not excluded by schedule 1 of The Electrical Safety Standards in the Private Rented Sector (England) Regulations 2020, so the ESSPRS(E)R apply. This requires the landlord to provide an EICR with no C1 or C2 defects. If you consider that not having an RCD would be a C2 defect (and it probably would be, especially if supplementary bonding is missing or inadequate), you could write to the client stating such and that you are copying your letter to the local council responsible for enforcing the regs. 

Sometimes it is best to let sleeping dogs lie. In other cases not. The person mentioned in my original post is an owner occupier and the chalet is not let. But your observations are valid ones.

Z.

• Subtlty might work better. Such as a quick mention along the lines of “well, so long as you do not try to rent it out then you would be unlikely to be prosecuted!”  might just get them thinking

ebee: 
 

• Subtlty might work better. Such as a quick mention along the lines of “well, so long as you do not try to rent it out then you would be unlikely to be prosecuted!”  might just get them thinking

Either that or a pools' win to finance the upgrade.

Z.