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When cables are downsized without a fuse, question

Hi! Can anyone clear this question up for me.

Based on Design current (Ib) < Protective device rating (In) / rating factors < Tabulated CCC (It), to protect the circuit cable from reaching it's limiting / hazardous temperature:

Why and when is it OK to use a cable that doesn't comply with Ib<In<It? You see it with a 2.5mm cable for an oven on a 32A cooker circuit (maybe on a cooker plate with a hob for example). You see it with lights where the cable goes from say 1.5mm to a 0.75mm flex. Socket spurs can be wired in 1.5mm if I remember right.

On plugged in appliance it's different as there's the fuse to create a new Ib<In<It (or max load<fuse<It).

I see how the main circuit cable needs to withstand the entire circuit design current whereas a flex to a light just has the current load of the light, for example. But if that meant it was safe, why do plug in appliances have fuses and not the other examples I mentioned?

Also, yes a low impedance short circuit or earth fault will trip the MCB/RCBO/RCD quickly if the Zs is low enough, but what if there was a fault letting through enough current to melt the small cable but not to trip the MCB/RCBO/RCD?

Thanks!

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  • Bear in mind also that a flex usually has a larger cpc CSA than the equivalent T&E. For example a 6mm² T&E has a 2.5mm² cpc, as does a 2.5mm² flex. so if the OCPD is suitable for a fault current on the T&E's cpc, it should be suitable for the flex too.

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  • Bear in mind also that a flex usually has a larger cpc CSA than the equivalent T&E. For example a 6mm² T&E has a 2.5mm² cpc, as does a 2.5mm² flex. so if the OCPD is suitable for a fault current on the T&E's cpc, it should be suitable for the flex too.

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