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EIC test details - only put new work circuit details?

Jimi

Hi, filling in a EIC. 

Do you only specify the new work circuit details?

For example, I just did a consumer unit change with a new kitchen ring, altered the cooker circuit, additions to the lighting circuit, alteration to the sockets downstairs circuit.

Filling in the test results, do I N/A the circuit specifics (type of wiring, cable sizes, reference methods, points served) for the existing circuits that I didn't work on and only specify the new work that I installed?

Examples:

Say I didn't work on the upstairs sockets, or loft sockets, I'd N/A them circuit specifics?

The original lighting is 1mm, reference method unknown, now with 14 points. I installed 1.5mm, ref 100, with 6X downlights, so do I put 1.5mm and my reference method, 6 points?

I altered the cooker circuit, its a 6mm, ref unknown. I added a setup for 2 ovens on 2.5mms. Do I put 2.5mm?

I fitted an isolator for the shower but installed no cable. So do I put N/A for them circuit specifics if I only specify the new work?

Confusing!

Thanks

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    I don't think that a CU change should be done just for the sake of it - there must be a reason.

    If it is the result of an unsatisfactory EICR, that's fine. If a householder wants an upgrade for whatever reason, the installation should be I&T'd. So the starting point ought to be an EICR.

    What you shouldn't do is connect an unsound circuit to the new CU. So that means that it must be tested before or after, preferably before.

    A CU change may be with the intention of adding circuits. So on completion of a CU change, the furthest points should be checked to ensure that they are as they were (for me a Zs will do) or else test as a new circuit.

    I see no problem with an EIC for a CU change referring to a previous EICR, whether it was done (preferably) by the same electrician or a different one.

  • 0 in reply to Chris Pearson

    Thanks for the reply. Sorry I wasn't clear. I did a pre-work survey, not far off a full EICR before changing the CU (my scheme doesn't let me complete EICRs) and then tested and inspected all circuits fully and every point after completing the work.

    My question was about what is written on the certificate in columns 3 to 7 on the 'schedule of circuit details and test results' (type of wiring, reference method, number of points, conductor CSA). I have all the existing circuit details to complete the schedule fully (except existing circuit reference methods...unless I dismantled the whole house to find out) but should I only put details of the cables I installed in the new work? On existing circuits that I didn't install, do I put N/A? On altered circuits do I just refer to my new work?

    Like you say, certificates only refer to the work done, so should I leave out any circuits I haven't worked on, and then for the circuits I have worked on, the details inputted refer to the new work only? For example, the lighting circuit, I did test every existing and new point and switch for continuity and polarity, then IR, Zs, PFC, RCD, but should my inputted results refer to the new work only? - 6X downlights in the kitchen - only their continuity and polarity (IR, Zs, PFC, RCD is at the CU or furthest point anyway so covers the whole circuit regardless).

    Is the proper way to complete one certificate for the CU change, with results referring to every circuit and point, existing and new, and then another certificate for any additional circuits or alterations to circuits made and the results on that test sheet specific to the newly installed work only, ignoring the existing?

    This question applies to alteration to an existing circuit too, maybe in a MEIWC, hypothetically, if there were 30 sockets on an existing circuit, and you add one, you test and input just your new work results for continuity and polarity (then IR, Zs, PFC, RCD at the CU)? I guess the CU change makes things a mess?

    Sorry for the length of this book. Doing my swede in! Just want to know what I'm doing.

    Thanks.

    (and sorry to duplicate this reply! I obviously wasn't clear in my initial question)

  • 0 in reply to Jimi
    Jimi said:
    (my scheme doesn't let me complete EICRs)

    A CPS can hardly prevent you from doing them - you do not have to be a member of one to do them.

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  • 0 in reply to Jimi
    Jimi said:
    (my scheme doesn't let me complete EICRs)

    A CPS can hardly prevent you from doing them - you do not have to be a member of one to do them.

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