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Low insulation resistance on remote hager rcbo board and effect on upstream devices.

Was asked to fit an extra skt to kitchen.Old 3036 cu so fit an enclosure with 40A rcd at side of cu.

Had tested IR of ring final earlier and found to be 0.03M.The low reading was traced to a detatched

garage with a 6way hager board spurred off the ring,comprising 6no rcbos with earth leads.The "fault"

as expected cleared when the leads were disconnected.My question is:had there been a greater number

of rcbos in the board or boards, so a lower ir,would the upstream 30ma rcd trip?

Thanks for any replies.

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  • As the issue went away when the RCBO (functional) earth leads were disconnected, I guess you were testing L-PE or L&N-PE.

    Assuming that 0.03MΩ is accurate - that's 30kOhms - whereas (in simple terms) you'd need it to be down to 7.66kΩ to get 30mA - so you'd need around 4x the number of boards/RCBOs to have any risk (although it would lower the "headroom" making unwanted tripping due to leakage from appliances more likely).

    I am a little surprised at the numbers through - 0.03MΩ for 6 RCBOs would imply a resistance of around 180kΩ each (or 1.3mA each) - which feels a bit poor to me. I wonder if there's some capacitance involved that's not being fully charged by the IR meter and so fooling it into thinking it's a lower resistance than it would appear to be to 50Hz supply, or at that extreme end of the scale the IR meter isn't entirely accurate.

       - Andy.

  • Andy,

    Thought it could trip at 12kohm (at 240v) since 20ma is over half the rcd rating.

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  • or at that extreme end of the scale the IR meter isn't entirely accurate.

    I very much doubt that it is - the manual should give an indication. If "full scale deflection" is >999 MΩ, 30 kΩ is only 0.003%. The ohms setting may give a more reliable estimate, or even a good old-fashioned multimeter.

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  • or at that extreme end of the scale the IR meter isn't entirely accurate.

    I very much doubt that it is - the manual should give an indication. If "full scale deflection" is >999 MΩ, 30 kΩ is only 0.003%. The ohms setting may give a more reliable estimate, or even a good old-fashioned multimeter.

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