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EV Charging and Lamp Posts

We have a job wiring lamp post lighting in a private car park.

Somebody has decided that an EV point will be fitted at each lamp post and will supply the light.

When you apply the 3% volt drop for the luminaire, obviously the cable size increases substantially.

Any thoughts?

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  • What is annoying is that when you see pictures illustrating how EV charging equipment can be installed in lamp posts these columns are shown next to the kerb, rather than at the rear of the footway.

    This is not actually true and is misleading because in the real world lamp posts are at the rear of the footway, so charging leads will be lay across the footway.

    On Monday I was watching a lady walking up the footway towards our house whilst I was talking to someone on my phone leaning against my wife’s car, the lady walking up the path was using a white cane with a ball on the end of it, I know she knew I was present because I was talking on my phone, as she got by our house I congratulated her and said I was impressed, because she correctly turned right to go along a path at the side of our house onto a playing field. We had a brief friendly conversation before I returned to the phone call, explaining what had just happened to the guy I was talking to on the phone.

    I know I’m getting old and grumpy, but if there were cars parked on the footway or charging leads lay across it simply walking along the footway would become more dangerous for people like that lady.

    As an aside, in amongst other things when I came home last night there was a speed trap on the main road, the guy had a motorcycle parked on the footway with a tripod set up, a couple of years ago I actually stopped and asked him if it was legal as he was setting up, he said he works for the the police, I said “So?”. Two years on it might be time for a letter to the Chief Constable asking the question again.

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  • What is annoying is that when you see pictures illustrating how EV charging equipment can be installed in lamp posts these columns are shown next to the kerb, rather than at the rear of the footway.

    This is not actually true and is misleading because in the real world lamp posts are at the rear of the footway, so charging leads will be lay across the footway.

    On Monday I was watching a lady walking up the footway towards our house whilst I was talking to someone on my phone leaning against my wife’s car, the lady walking up the path was using a white cane with a ball on the end of it, I know she knew I was present because I was talking on my phone, as she got by our house I congratulated her and said I was impressed, because she correctly turned right to go along a path at the side of our house onto a playing field. We had a brief friendly conversation before I returned to the phone call, explaining what had just happened to the guy I was talking to on the phone.

    I know I’m getting old and grumpy, but if there were cars parked on the footway or charging leads lay across it simply walking along the footway would become more dangerous for people like that lady.

    As an aside, in amongst other things when I came home last night there was a speed trap on the main road, the guy had a motorcycle parked on the footway with a tripod set up, a couple of years ago I actually stopped and asked him if it was legal as he was setting up, he said he works for the the police, I said “So?”. Two years on it might be time for a letter to the Chief Constable asking the question again.

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  • What is annoying is that when you see pictures illustrating how EV charging equipment can be installed in lamp posts these columns are shown next to the kerb, rather than at the rear of the footway.

    This is not actually true and is misleading because in the real world lamp posts are at the rear of the footway, so charging leads will be lay across the footway.

    I had never thought about that, but around here where there are grass verges, the lamp posts are mostly in the verges nearer to the footway (or foot/bicycleway). Some are set at the back of the foot/bicycleway. Where there is no footway, they are in the grass verge save for one which is in the carriageway, there being no verge at that point.

    Concerning the police activity, if the motorbike is ridden into position on the footway, it would appear to be an offence under s.72 of the Highway Act 1935: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Will4/5-6/50/section/72 (Why the police no longer enforce this in respect of pedal cyclists is a mystery to me.)

    It isn't just visually impaired people who may be inconvenienced, but also wheelchair users.

  • This is not actually true and is misleading because in the real world lamp posts are at the rear of the footway, so charging leads will be lay across the footway.

    Not everywhere. Evidence my own eyes. Agree not an acceptable solution if leads are trailing over the footway.

  • Really of course the lamp posts have (quite correctly) been put in where light is needed, and that means a lot of them will be  poorly placed as charge points. And that is before consideration of how much extra load the cables can withstand.

    It is a neat retrofit  idea where it works, but there will be plenty of locations where it simply won't. (all those lights up the centre of the M25 for example....)

    Mike