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Cable Standards and Selection

Hi 

Would be grateful for some guidance on cabling standards/selection

Currently developing an large energy storage system and equipment is coming from all over the place.

I seem to be struggling to get European suppliers of equipment to comply with British standard cabling such as shown in Table 4A3. I keep on getting thrown all sorts of weird and wonderful cable datasheets, all with IEC standards but no ref to BS or BS EN that I am comfortable or familiar with. We have clearly specified BS7671 as the standard to be followed but there seems to be a reluctance to adhere to this.

Example

Power cables 2XY-fl RM 2x2,5mm² (bk)

Instrument cables   RE-2X(St)Yv-fl 1x2x1.0mm² (bk/bu)

Would other non BS cables be accepted in the UK and signed off and what are the implications in not following cable recommendations in table 4A3? 

kind regards

Chris

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  • Would other non BS cables be accepted in the UK and signed off  ?
    Generally perfectly fine yes, but only if made to an equivalent standard - one offering the same level of insulation/ voltage ratings and conductor cross-section and in the cases of armoured cables, equivalent mechanical robustness, or 'de-scoped' and used in containment, as if soft skinned.

    "Sign off" also requires a design authority with sufficient knowledge of other countries standards to make an informed decision. You or whoever this falls to, may end up  with a large folder of datasheets. In general only stuff for the UK market is certified to the BS, so there is far more stuff 'out there' made to other standards.
     
    and what are the implications in not following cable recommendations in table 4A3? 
    You will need to request access to the cable maker's data, or generic standard data for that type of cable if made to another national or harmonized standard. Some intelligent read-across between cables of similar construction and use of the figures for something similar may be possible unless pushing tight against the maximum ratings.

    Mike.

    PS as an example for your 2XYRY-fl

    try page 30 of this PDF   Nominal 0.6 / 1 kV  XLPE Insulation, steel wire Armour, PVC-Sheath tested to 3500V  reads like it meets or exceeds the spec for SWA for example and has rather lower minimum  temperature, so if you have liquid nitrogen about it may be a better  choice. I'd be pretty happy using that wherever  the same size XPLE low smoke SWA would be accepted

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    For the instrument flex  RE-2X(st)Y  try the Eland data available here.

    Again nothing terrible just a PVC insulated and sheathed round cable. Consider rather like arctic flex.

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  • Would other non BS cables be accepted in the UK and signed off  ?
    Generally perfectly fine yes, but only if made to an equivalent standard - one offering the same level of insulation/ voltage ratings and conductor cross-section and in the cases of armoured cables, equivalent mechanical robustness, or 'de-scoped' and used in containment, as if soft skinned.

    "Sign off" also requires a design authority with sufficient knowledge of other countries standards to make an informed decision. You or whoever this falls to, may end up  with a large folder of datasheets. In general only stuff for the UK market is certified to the BS, so there is far more stuff 'out there' made to other standards.
     
    and what are the implications in not following cable recommendations in table 4A3? 
    You will need to request access to the cable maker's data, or generic standard data for that type of cable if made to another national or harmonized standard. Some intelligent read-across between cables of similar construction and use of the figures for something similar may be possible unless pushing tight against the maximum ratings.

    Mike.

    PS as an example for your 2XYRY-fl

    try page 30 of this PDF   Nominal 0.6 / 1 kV  XLPE Insulation, steel wire Armour, PVC-Sheath tested to 3500V  reads like it meets or exceeds the spec for SWA for example and has rather lower minimum  temperature, so if you have liquid nitrogen about it may be a better  choice. I'd be pretty happy using that wherever  the same size XPLE low smoke SWA would be accepted

    .

    For the instrument flex  RE-2X(st)Y  try the Eland data available here.

    Again nothing terrible just a PVC insulated and sheathed round cable. Consider rather like arctic flex.

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