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Consumer unit feed / main tails more than 3m

Hi, what are the requirements when a consumer unit is to be located where the mains tails are more than 3m from the cut-out? Quickly searching online it seems that a switched fuse unit (60A, 80A, 100A as applicable) is required after the meter? Does anyone know the regulation number in BS7671? Some have mentioned taking high voltage drop and Ze into consideration for a long run. Is SWA usually used? It is safer and could be buried in a wall if needed couldn't it? Mains tails are a bit dodgy anyway as contacting the line you could get the full PFC so I prefer the idea of the earthed armouring. 25mm 3-core SWA at CEF is about £13 per meter. I guess that's what happens in blocks of flats?

In this installation, the current position of the intake and CU is in the kitchen. They would like it moving under the stairs if possible which would mean a 5 or 6 meter run from the kitchen, up above ceiling, across and down into the under-stairs cupboard. I could potentially take an alternative route behind the kitchen units. Thanks.

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  • This is not a technical rule, it is an entirely administrative one. Of course if the DNO fuse will blow from a dead short 3m down the line, it will also blow if the fault path is made  a  few cm longer !! But, the DNO's legal team do not want responsibility for fusing cables that may be of any length and condition. Put the boot on the other foot and would the company fuse be the only protection for tens or hundreds of metres of cables to various outbuildings  and unknown routes and hidden joints across a rambling site and through the building fabric ? So an easy to remember rule is required. 
    There is a coincidental  distance of 3m with some rules that are in BS7671, one about unprotected cables in things like busbar rooms comes to mind, but we are not talking about putting smaller cables on the 100A fuse without an MCB or something, so its not the same, (but DNO time switches on the board may be wired in something thinner) and  until recently you could just have easily said the same 3m distance occurs in rules separating  a bath and a socket, but it is not really that case either.

    It is not wise to look for a technical reason the distance is not 1m or 10m, there really is not a good one.  In the days of the electricity boards, rather than separate DNOs and metering companies, in some blocks of flats etc the equivalent of meter tails spanning 2 or 3 floors was not unheard of. Nowadays  there is an extra row of fuse holders in the basement.

    Mike

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  • This is not a technical rule, it is an entirely administrative one. Of course if the DNO fuse will blow from a dead short 3m down the line, it will also blow if the fault path is made  a  few cm longer !! But, the DNO's legal team do not want responsibility for fusing cables that may be of any length and condition. Put the boot on the other foot and would the company fuse be the only protection for tens or hundreds of metres of cables to various outbuildings  and unknown routes and hidden joints across a rambling site and through the building fabric ? So an easy to remember rule is required. 
    There is a coincidental  distance of 3m with some rules that are in BS7671, one about unprotected cables in things like busbar rooms comes to mind, but we are not talking about putting smaller cables on the 100A fuse without an MCB or something, so its not the same, (but DNO time switches on the board may be wired in something thinner) and  until recently you could just have easily said the same 3m distance occurs in rules separating  a bath and a socket, but it is not really that case either.

    It is not wise to look for a technical reason the distance is not 1m or 10m, there really is not a good one.  In the days of the electricity boards, rather than separate DNOs and metering companies, in some blocks of flats etc the equivalent of meter tails spanning 2 or 3 floors was not unheard of. Nowadays  there is an extra row of fuse holders in the basement.

    Mike

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