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Spot the cynic: Call to extend electrical safety checks

Former Community Member
Former Community Member

What do people think of this:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61881979 

The charity Electrical Safety First (ESF) said the checks had found 7,000 faults including exposed live wiring.

Back in 2012, the ESF partnered with the Electrical Contractors’ Association (ECA) to create Certsure, which operates ECA Certification and NICEIC competent person scheme.

Do you think this figure is likely to be higher in reality given what we know about the price war and race to the bottom which affects how inspections are done? We have all heard stories of EICRs deemed satisfactory when they shouldn't have been, of qualified supervisors not properly checking the work carried out by their subcontractors. 

Is it cynical of ESF to release these figures and lobby for more properties to be covered when it is the NICEIC competent person scheme that has been criticised for allowing for subpar checks to be carried out in the first place?

I'd be really interested to get your views....

    

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  • I could have reported C1 and C2 issues whilst undertaking Housing Association EICRs, but we were instructed to resolve all issues as we went along because the HA only wanted satisfactory EICRs otherwise they could not rent the house or flat out, so an unsatisfactory EICR was of no use to them at all.

    So reading the EICRs I submitted would not give you any indication whatsoever of what condition the electrical installation was actually in prior to me attending to do the inspection and testing, so I can tell you that completed EICRs do not give a true representation of the prior state of electrical installations in Housing Association properties.

    For example on several occasions I found bare copper exposed on the meter tails where they entered the suppliers meter in the meter cabinet within the communal area outside the flat, an issue that was made worse because the suppliers meters were prepayment meters that needed to be topped up using a payment key. On each occasion I had Western Power attend as an emergency callout, WPD weren’t very happy about having to attend because they were actually having to correct Metering Services work, when I tried to get them to come to a similar issue in a private home I was told to report it through the customers supplier to get Metering Services to sort it out and ended up binding the tails in tape as a temporary measure.

    Anyway, no C1 issues were ever recorded on the Housing Association EICRs because they were dealt with, not merely recorded for someone else to deal with.

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  • I could have reported C1 and C2 issues whilst undertaking Housing Association EICRs, but we were instructed to resolve all issues as we went along because the HA only wanted satisfactory EICRs otherwise they could not rent the house or flat out, so an unsatisfactory EICR was of no use to them at all.

    So reading the EICRs I submitted would not give you any indication whatsoever of what condition the electrical installation was actually in prior to me attending to do the inspection and testing, so I can tell you that completed EICRs do not give a true representation of the prior state of electrical installations in Housing Association properties.

    For example on several occasions I found bare copper exposed on the meter tails where they entered the suppliers meter in the meter cabinet within the communal area outside the flat, an issue that was made worse because the suppliers meters were prepayment meters that needed to be topped up using a payment key. On each occasion I had Western Power attend as an emergency callout, WPD weren’t very happy about having to attend because they were actually having to correct Metering Services work, when I tried to get them to come to a similar issue in a private home I was told to report it through the customers supplier to get Metering Services to sort it out and ended up binding the tails in tape as a temporary measure.

    Anyway, no C1 issues were ever recorded on the Housing Association EICRs because they were dealt with, not merely recorded for someone else to deal with.

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