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Three Phase 230V three wire systems

We have a emergency shutdown system on our rig that is wired in such a way the relays always have a minimum of 90v on L2 side of the coil so it is intermittently not opening on ESD activation. I believe this is incorrectly designed as we have a three wire three phase system, no neutral so in theory 110v each phase and 230v across any two phases.

Intermittently when activating the ESD buttons the activation relays will not open because of the constant voltage of anywhere between 90-110v on L2. I am trying to convince my engineering department that this is incorrect and we need to redesign but it is difficult as they don't understand the issue.

What i would like to propose to temporarily fix the issue is to put in a Isolation transformer and tie down the L2 side to earth of the secondary to give us a 0vL2 and 230v L1. This guarantees the relays will work when intended but i am not 100% sure this is allowed?

Can someone please assist me if at all possible.

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  • Yes i am going down the capacitance route now, the cable runs as all wired in series is approximately 600m maybe even more. This is a offshore drilling unit so its 60Hz also. I believe the fact we have a float capacitance and a floating live on L2 is keeping the relay energized intermittently.  This being said it is a very poorly designed system.

    Please ignore the red line isolation transformer part, that is what i am proposing to fit as a temporary measure till our engineering department agree with designing this to incorporate zero volt contact safety relays etc .

    I believe we could install bleeder resistors to cure this issue but again that will need OEM and engineering approval. 

    Would you agree my thoughts are correct and this is a incorrectly or poorly designed critical safety system?

    Please see below drawing of the circuit and the relay fitted.

     AJ,

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  • Yes i am going down the capacitance route now, the cable runs as all wired in series is approximately 600m maybe even more. This is a offshore drilling unit so its 60Hz also. I believe the fact we have a float capacitance and a floating live on L2 is keeping the relay energized intermittently.  This being said it is a very poorly designed system.

    Please ignore the red line isolation transformer part, that is what i am proposing to fit as a temporary measure till our engineering department agree with designing this to incorporate zero volt contact safety relays etc .

    I believe we could install bleeder resistors to cure this issue but again that will need OEM and engineering approval. 

    Would you agree my thoughts are correct and this is a incorrectly or poorly designed critical safety system?

    Please see below drawing of the circuit and the relay fitted.

     AJ,

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