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Paperwork after rewire?

davidwalker2

I would be grateful if the experts here could tell me what paperwork I should expect having just had a new CU and complete rewire of a house.   At the moment I have a certificate from NICEIC but all it states is “Building Regulations Certificate of Completion”, but nothing else.  Should I expect more?  When I last had this done at a different house I was given a list of works completed with test results, but I do not know what is expected now.

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    I see that certain posters do not believe that Certificates (EICR, EIC, MWC) have any necessity to have any verifiability as to the actual person who produced them. This is crazy! We have a severe problem with certificates already, quality control and responsibility and accuracy. are all very low. We have a requirement in BS7671 that these shall be produced, accurate information given, and they shall be provided to particular persons upon completion. If there is no Audit trail this is useless. The only trail we have is a signature and other details, yet these may be entirely false on an electronic document unless it has all the necessary features. Whilst most people would probably notice if it was signed Joe Bloggs and a false business name and address were written in (I have one or two like this), someone pretending to me is of considerable concern and the only protection I have is a carbon copy on file which can be verified very easily as being identical or not. Electronic certificates are fine with me as long as this same verification can be carried out, with a guarantee of admissibility as evidence. Provenance is the basis of our legal system, and is utterly necessary. In a recent legal case, witnesses for a prosecution claimed various thing about thousands of documents, however when it came down to it only 20 ish pages were accepted, as the rest of the documents were not available or unverifiable.

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    David Stone said:
    I see that certain posters do not believe that Certificates (EICR, EIC, MWC) have any necessity to have any verifiability as to the actual person who produced them.

    That's not what I have said ... only challenged your assumption that you need some advanced electronic signatures implemented to cover the legal necessity of a person to 'make their mark'?

    To be pedantic, the EICR (and requirement for it in Chapter 65 of BS 7671, more to the point) is a report not a certificate.

    David Stone said:
    f there is no Audit trail this is useless. The only trail we have is a signature and other details, yet these may be entirely false on an electronic document unless it has all the necessary features.

    Yes, it is hard enough, without trying to invent some new legal requirements that are far and above what is necessary?

    David Stone said:
    Provenance is the basis of our legal system, and is utterly necessary.

    Agreed - there's lots on line for those who wish to research the requirements.

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    David Stone said:
    I see that certain posters do not believe that Certificates (EICR, EIC, MWC) have any necessity to have any verifiability as to the actual person who produced them.

    That's not what I have said ... only challenged your assumption that you need some advanced electronic signatures implemented to cover the legal necessity of a person to 'make their mark'?

    To be pedantic, the EICR (and requirement for it in Chapter 65 of BS 7671, more to the point) is a report not a certificate.

    David Stone said:
    f there is no Audit trail this is useless. The only trail we have is a signature and other details, yet these may be entirely false on an electronic document unless it has all the necessary features.

    Yes, it is hard enough, without trying to invent some new legal requirements that are far and above what is necessary?

    David Stone said:
    Provenance is the basis of our legal system, and is utterly necessary.

    Agreed - there's lots on line for those who wish to research the requirements.

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