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C&G Indicates lack of qualifications for Electricians and EV charger installs

Morning All,

Just was made aware of this article and doesnt really surprise me to be honest:

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/electriccars/article-11054445/Concerns-raised-safety-electric-car-charge-points.html

So goes back to the concerns I always have about what due diligence the "Duty Holder" or indeed the householder etc carry out to make sure the installer is competant for the task to be performed. I doubt this just relates to householders employing "electricians" direct themselves, but also to those charging companies and EVSE suppliers that send a man in a van out to do the install.

I appreaciate, those that do complete the C&G course can still go on and make mistakes and carry out dangerous and shoddy work, but logic indicates they should be less likley to do so than those with no training a flick thru Section 7 in the regs and carry on oblivious to what the results of their actions may be.

GTB

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  • I supposed I am going to have to fess up.

    A few weeks ago, Lyle Dunn and Alan Blaby commented in a discussion on this forum about the changes to the C&G EVSE course and a NVQ being a prerequisite for the new course.

    Being a man of a certain age, I don't have any NVQs so although my C&G are into double figures after the end of August I will not be able to do the C&G EVSE course and gain the qualification.

    So, after some debate with myself I decided to do it whilst I still have the opportunity and have made an initial outlay of a couple of thousand quid to get myself into the position I am in at the moment, trained and equipped, but not actually having done an install.

    I did the C&G EVSE course at NAPIT Training in Portishead by Bristol, my experience was the exact opposite to the one that Alan had. We went through it doing the course exactly as we were supposed to, the job sheet cards were selected at random and we each did different ones, everyone used my pocketknife to make the SWA off because the cable insulation stripper had gone missing, I tried my shiny new charge point testing adapter out for the first time doing the testing assessment and so on and so forth.

    Naively I thought everyone would pass and was actually surprised when I realised that some people had failed, I don't know how many failed as it wasn't appropriate to stop and listen to the conversations about retaking the exam and assessments.

    I am now working my way through manufacturers training which is not particularly what it should be in some instances. I have just completed an online training module about interconnecting EVSE for load sharing with CAN Bus and the "quiz" asked the maximum length of the communication cable A- 50 metres, B- 500 metres or C- 5000 metres. I thought that information was not in the online training video I had just watched, so I watched it again and it wasn't, so then I Googled the answer, and the installation manual says 250 metres, I already had 500 metres in mind so clicked that, passed and now have an Accredited Training Certificate gained whilst sitting on my settee on a Sunday morning. 

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  • I supposed I am going to have to fess up.

    A few weeks ago, Lyle Dunn and Alan Blaby commented in a discussion on this forum about the changes to the C&G EVSE course and a NVQ being a prerequisite for the new course.

    Being a man of a certain age, I don't have any NVQs so although my C&G are into double figures after the end of August I will not be able to do the C&G EVSE course and gain the qualification.

    So, after some debate with myself I decided to do it whilst I still have the opportunity and have made an initial outlay of a couple of thousand quid to get myself into the position I am in at the moment, trained and equipped, but not actually having done an install.

    I did the C&G EVSE course at NAPIT Training in Portishead by Bristol, my experience was the exact opposite to the one that Alan had. We went through it doing the course exactly as we were supposed to, the job sheet cards were selected at random and we each did different ones, everyone used my pocketknife to make the SWA off because the cable insulation stripper had gone missing, I tried my shiny new charge point testing adapter out for the first time doing the testing assessment and so on and so forth.

    Naively I thought everyone would pass and was actually surprised when I realised that some people had failed, I don't know how many failed as it wasn't appropriate to stop and listen to the conversations about retaking the exam and assessments.

    I am now working my way through manufacturers training which is not particularly what it should be in some instances. I have just completed an online training module about interconnecting EVSE for load sharing with CAN Bus and the "quiz" asked the maximum length of the communication cable A- 50 metres, B- 500 metres or C- 5000 metres. I thought that information was not in the online training video I had just watched, so I watched it again and it wasn't, so then I Googled the answer, and the installation manual says 250 metres, I already had 500 metres in mind so clicked that, passed and now have an Accredited Training Certificate gained whilst sitting on my settee on a Sunday morning. 

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