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C&G Indicates lack of qualifications for Electricians and EV charger installs

GTB

Morning All,

Just was made aware of this article and doesnt really surprise me to be honest:

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/electriccars/article-11054445/Concerns-raised-safety-electric-car-charge-points.html

So goes back to the concerns I always have about what due diligence the "Duty Holder" or indeed the householder etc carry out to make sure the installer is competant for the task to be performed. I doubt this just relates to householders employing "electricians" direct themselves, but also to those charging companies and EVSE suppliers that send a man in a van out to do the install.

I appreaciate, those that do complete the C&G course can still go on and make mistakes and carry out dangerous and shoddy work, but logic indicates they should be less likley to do so than those with no training a flick thru Section 7 in the regs and carry on oblivious to what the results of their actions may be.

GTB

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  • Well, it seems to me that we need to re- define both 'dangerous installation' and 'suitably qualified' in a looser way so that more folk currently practicing as electricians can be recognized as competent. The alternative is a lot of 'granny leads' put out of bedroom windows, which does not involve electrically skilled personnel at all, but is, I firmly predict, likely to be a lot more dangerous in the long run.

    I cannot believe that the majority of charger installations cannot be made at least as easy as installing a shower or a submain supply to an outbuilding. Perhaps the 'how to do it well' information needs to be more in the public domain, so customers  know better what to expect and to ask for (some car folk do understand electricity quite well after all), and the more  also-ran installers can, ahem, "double check", exactly what is it that they are supposed to be doing.

    Some more detail on the 'really dangerous' practices discovered would probably also help steer that process of education too.

    'Does not meet regs' and ' does not have a C and G cert from the 2000s' is not the same as 'is dangerous', in both directions.

    Mike.

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  • Well, it seems to me that we need to re- define both 'dangerous installation' and 'suitably qualified' in a looser way so that more folk currently practicing as electricians can be recognized as competent. The alternative is a lot of 'granny leads' put out of bedroom windows, which does not involve electrically skilled personnel at all, but is, I firmly predict, likely to be a lot more dangerous in the long run.

    I cannot believe that the majority of charger installations cannot be made at least as easy as installing a shower or a submain supply to an outbuilding. Perhaps the 'how to do it well' information needs to be more in the public domain, so customers  know better what to expect and to ask for (some car folk do understand electricity quite well after all), and the more  also-ran installers can, ahem, "double check", exactly what is it that they are supposed to be doing.

    Some more detail on the 'really dangerous' practices discovered would probably also help steer that process of education too.

    'Does not meet regs' and ' does not have a C and G cert from the 2000s' is not the same as 'is dangerous', in both directions.

    Mike.

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