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Historical Wiring.

The old days where house main earthing leads were green 6.0mm2. Ring "mains" were wired in 2.5mm2 T&E with 1.0mm2 earth continuity conductors. And the use of plastic oval conduit in plaster was common.

Is this compliant? Please see picture.

Z.

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  • I'll say it. Earth is safety critical isn't it? Perhaps that ought to be red?

    A bit of Teutonic thinking there by any chance?

    Whilst colours are convenient, do they actually matter?

    One hand they are useful, but on the other having a direct association with function is a bit limiting at times - what use is a brown/blue (or red/black) pair for a lightswitch?. Yes you can buy twin brown (but then can't tell the difference between L and SL) and it's all to messy to have a similar option with 3-core - brown/brown/brown or brown/brown/blue.

    The French approach (mostly in conduit, even domestics) has a practical air about it - G/Y for PE, Blue for N and anything else you like for L. That way you can use different colours for SL, stappers, or different SLs in multi-gang switches without any need for extra labels or oversleeving.

    It might be simpler if the coding simply identified the core within a cable (like the numbered cores in many cored SWAs) and the association with function was looser. You could have conventions - e,g. core 1 is perm L if present, highest number if N, if present, a separate G/Y core for PE. You could even keep colour codes, but only have them identify the cores - say using an existing colour-to-digit code (as used with resistors for example), so brown = core 1, red = 2, orange = 3 etc.

       - Andy.

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  • I'll say it. Earth is safety critical isn't it? Perhaps that ought to be red?

    A bit of Teutonic thinking there by any chance?

    Whilst colours are convenient, do they actually matter?

    One hand they are useful, but on the other having a direct association with function is a bit limiting at times - what use is a brown/blue (or red/black) pair for a lightswitch?. Yes you can buy twin brown (but then can't tell the difference between L and SL) and it's all to messy to have a similar option with 3-core - brown/brown/brown or brown/brown/blue.

    The French approach (mostly in conduit, even domestics) has a practical air about it - G/Y for PE, Blue for N and anything else you like for L. That way you can use different colours for SL, stappers, or different SLs in multi-gang switches without any need for extra labels or oversleeving.

    It might be simpler if the coding simply identified the core within a cable (like the numbered cores in many cored SWAs) and the association with function was looser. You could have conventions - e,g. core 1 is perm L if present, highest number if N, if present, a separate G/Y core for PE. You could even keep colour codes, but only have them identify the cores - say using an existing colour-to-digit code (as used with resistors for example), so brown = core 1, red = 2, orange = 3 etc.

       - Andy.

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