It’s not long gone it’s on the 27th , did Darren work for NiCEIC before ?

I was referring to the independence of the IET.

It would be much more honest if they just came clean and said "Look folks, yes we get funding from the industry, it's our bread and butter income, so yes we mandate useless kit from time to time because the lobby groups from industry threaten to withdraw funding if we don't."

I’m not sure your info is correct there whjohnson!

I’ve asked someone in our Regs team to pop in here to respond to your comments.

well it certainly will not let you register if you do not accept spam from CEF - diabolical

Passing that feedback onto the Regs team @ebee as I’m also not sure that’s the correct wording for that tickbox either! Usually it’s a GDPR requirement for consent to processing your data as part of the general event admin but the marketing stuff is usually another optional tick box! 

 whjohnson for info, here's a copy of the publicly available IET 2021 annual report and accounts which covers the IET's income and expenditure. As you can see on page 43 the vast amount of income for the IET comes from our Knowledge Services arm that publishes books and journals etc, organises large technical conferences, Inspec services as well as publishing a little known publication called the 18th Edition Wiring regs. 

Our second biggest source of income is membership. Trading was down last year as Covid lockdowns reduced the income from our event venues in London and Birmingham and another large source of income (the IBC conference) was also cancelled in 2021.

More detailed info can be found in the report for anyone interested. 

So as you can see 'funding from the industry' in the way you're suggesting is certainly not the IET's 'bread and butter income'

Lisa,

Firstly, many thanks for taking the time and trouble to respond.

As you say, much of the IET's income is indeed derived from publications sales.

May I assume that it is actually changes to these publications which drives sales?

Which leads me to the target I have been aiming for - who drives the changes?

I would say that it is self evident that without changes, there would be no need to republish, and if the IET didn't republish, there would be less income.

There's plenty of publication mileage with the current green madness, perhaps a new section to the regs is in order.

The IET didn't really need AFDD or surge protection. But maybe that was an insurance policy.

whjohnson 

Our Knowledge Services team covers an enormous breadth of different products and services and not just the publication of the Wiring Regs. 

Although yes, the sale of the wiring regs and its subsequent updates do contribute an amount to the overall income, I don't think it's as large a proportion to the overall sum as you would expect. 

We are a huge organisation with many different products and activities. Although we're well known to the general public as being the publisher of the Wiring Regs, it's only one very small part of what we do!

Amazon for example, is much more than just a book seller.... 

Wasn`t optional Lisa. Ticking the box would allow you to register, not ticking that tick box would NOT allow you to register . Devious?

Wasn`t optional Lisa. Ticking the box would allow you to register, not ticking that tick box would NOT allow you to register . Devious?