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EICR - does bathroom lighting outside zone 2 need to conform with IP rating and additional rcd protection?

Hi, I have received an EICR certificate with 2 C2s on bathroom lighting 1) Bathroom lighting does not conform to IP rating (note the lighting outside the zone based on published zoning guidance (low voltage spot light) but inspector insisted on ignoring the zoning guidance) 2) Bathroom lighting circuit is not connected to an RCD also supplementary bonding is not visible. 

Questions- 1) Are the C2s legitimate? As a layman, I find it difficult to understand why the inspector insisted on ignoring the bathroom zoning regulation (my ceiling is actually higher than most of the newer flat) . 2) Also how do I find out whether there is supplemental bonding in the bathroom lighting circuit (nothing is visible outside) - does it really warrant a C2 if I cannot prove that there is supplemental bonding (the lighting in my bathroom is low voltage (I don’t know what is the voltage but it is very dim) and is located outside zone) . 3) If the C2s are legitimate, how can I fix the issue with minimal cost? 

many thanks for your time in advance.

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  • This is another poor EICR. Section 715 covers ELV lighting, and nothing special is required in Bathrooms, the items being fully isolated. The inspector was negligent in not determining the type of lighting, and could easily determine if it was mains or ELV. (-10 points). Assuming it was mains, then it is outside the zones so no risk to anyone, particularly the inspector, so the coding was not correct (-20 points). He failed to check if the circuit was actually RCD protected or not, or if he did he failed to code the other circuits affected (probably C3) (-10 points). He did not check for any REQUIRED supplementary bonding with an ohm meter, as bonding is only required if the items are actually not connected via a low resistance, and a good installation may well not have any bonding visible, and looking inside the light switch or fittings should have shown the extra G/Y(-10 points). The IP rating of fittings is dubious, as unless subject to direct splashing none is required, and out of zone this is very unlikely 701.512.2(-10 points).

    The conclusion can only be that this inspection is significantly defective, but unfortunately this is far from unusual. I think an improper degree of incompetence was involved. I wonder if a value for R1+R2, or Zs for the bathroom lighting circuit is on the test results, or whether this is even remotely correct? Were the terminal screws inspected? I rather doubt it.

    As to fixing the alleged problem, I suggest adding an 30 mA RCD to at least this circuit if none is present, and this can be fitted anywhere outside the bathroom. I detect howls of complaint, but this is perfectly legitimate as a low cost solution. It is amazing that so many understand so little of the actual regulations, particularly those who claim to be Inspectors. How many will immediately want to fit a new CU full of RCBOs?

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  • This is another poor EICR. Section 715 covers ELV lighting, and nothing special is required in Bathrooms, the items being fully isolated. The inspector was negligent in not determining the type of lighting, and could easily determine if it was mains or ELV. (-10 points). Assuming it was mains, then it is outside the zones so no risk to anyone, particularly the inspector, so the coding was not correct (-20 points). He failed to check if the circuit was actually RCD protected or not, or if he did he failed to code the other circuits affected (probably C3) (-10 points). He did not check for any REQUIRED supplementary bonding with an ohm meter, as bonding is only required if the items are actually not connected via a low resistance, and a good installation may well not have any bonding visible, and looking inside the light switch or fittings should have shown the extra G/Y(-10 points). The IP rating of fittings is dubious, as unless subject to direct splashing none is required, and out of zone this is very unlikely 701.512.2(-10 points).

    The conclusion can only be that this inspection is significantly defective, but unfortunately this is far from unusual. I think an improper degree of incompetence was involved. I wonder if a value for R1+R2, or Zs for the bathroom lighting circuit is on the test results, or whether this is even remotely correct? Were the terminal screws inspected? I rather doubt it.

    As to fixing the alleged problem, I suggest adding an 30 mA RCD to at least this circuit if none is present, and this can be fitted anywhere outside the bathroom. I detect howls of complaint, but this is perfectly legitimate as a low cost solution. It is amazing that so many understand so little of the actual regulations, particularly those who claim to be Inspectors. How many will immediately want to fit a new CU full of RCBOs?

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