EICR - does bathroom lighting outside zone 2 need to conform with IP rating and additional rcd protection?

Hi, I have received an EICR certificate with 2 C2s on bathroom lighting 1) Bathroom lighting does not conform to IP rating (note the lighting outside the zone based on published zoning guidance (low voltage spot light) but inspector insisted on ignoring the zoning guidance) 2) Bathroom lighting circuit is not connected to an RCD also supplementary bonding is not visible. 

Questions- 1) Are the C2s legitimate? As a layman, I find it difficult to understand why the inspector insisted on ignoring the bathroom zoning regulation (my ceiling is actually higher than most of the newer flat) . 2) Also how do I find out whether there is supplemental bonding in the bathroom lighting circuit (nothing is visible outside) - does it really warrant a C2 if I cannot prove that there is supplemental bonding (the lighting in my bathroom is low voltage (I don’t know what is the voltage but it is very dim) and is located outside zone) . 3) If the C2s are legitimate, how can I fix the issue with minimal cost? 

many thanks for your time in advance.

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  • Now you’re going to have to wash your mouth out with soap and water.

  • I’m sorry if anyone gets offended along these discussions. I don’t know anything about electricals and am really thankful that people are kind enough to offer many insights to the issue I faced. This EICR inspector only spent 10-15 minutes at my flat but cost me a lot of time to get to the bottom of it!

    I’m not keen to risk tripping lights with power so I don’t plan to go down option that may lead me to that.

    Still getting quotes but so far I have been quoted £400-£500 for just getting another RCd into the fuse box and changing the lights into IP67 for 2 hours’ labour plus MWC. I don’t know if that is expected (some insists on getting another EICR for me others charged me £150 just for MWC alone). I think this is a bit too steep for me at this juncture. So will have to continue and see how it goes. 

  • I’m sorry if anyone gets offended along these discussions.

    I'm certainly not offended, but unless you are in central London, those prices are a rip off. There should be no charge for an MWC. A new CU will include an Electrical Installation Certificate, which duplicates much of an EICR. It will keep everybody happy for the foreseeable future and when you sell, will be one less thing to worry about.

    I&T in 10 - 15 minutes is getting into the realms of fraud. Would it be too rude to ask how much it cost please?

  • I’m in SE10. The EICR was sourced through landlord certificate services because they seems to have good feedback and I thought they would be assigning competent electricians.  I had no idea how long it was supposed to be. I only found out from tenant today that the guy only came in for 10-15mins in total (he clearly didn’t do much in that space of time, he slipped once during conversations to say he needs to come back to the flat to review the issues raised if he were to reconfirm that they actually are not issues! But of course he won’t admit to that now!

    Today I found out from talking to my management office that many people in the development has had EICR done and this is the first time they heard about the supplemental bonding issue and the electrical wirings are all in good condition according to their own engineer who has done extensive work and review on our development.

    I’m almost thinking whether I should go and change the fuse board in my flat (not knowing whom I may end up getting - this incident really give me a nightmare ) when everything has been working fine? But, I’m also sick of all this issue and wish to put this behind. So caught in a bit of dilemma now!

  • I thought the MWC was just to confirm the work performed but this doesn’t seem to be the case from the quotations I receive - some even insisted on another EICR. It is really a headache!