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The ability to self-declare “competence” should not be possible.

Having looked for the Electrical Safety Round Table website this morning, I left the page open and went back to it again; and have been looking at the campaigns.

Anomaly-with-Approved-Document-P-discussion-paper.pdf (electricalsafetyroundtable.co.uk)

Any thoughts?

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  • It appears that this document has been removed Andy, perhaps because you noticed it!

    The whole lot is anomalous, and that is the trouble with every bit of PartP. A scheme member company may notify some work, but the competence of the installer and particularly the QS is still very much in doubt. The LA for a non-member of a scheme will call on some member of a scheme to Inspect (but not provide a certificate ) of the work, and then it is deemed satisfactory. This actual "Inspector" may not be qualified in inspection and testing, and the QS takes no part! Now how is that not totally ridiculous? I am afraid it is jobs for the boys, and the fees charged are in no way controlled. The experience of GTB shows just how bad such an arrangement is, and it should never have existed. Most of the particularly poor work is never notified anyway, so I consider this just a way to increase scheme membership, there are more holes than a chain-link fence. BTW which bit of (c) says a full EIC must be produced, an EICR form may be filled in but this is not the same at all.

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  • It appears that this document has been removed Andy, perhaps because you noticed it!

    The whole lot is anomalous, and that is the trouble with every bit of PartP. A scheme member company may notify some work, but the competence of the installer and particularly the QS is still very much in doubt. The LA for a non-member of a scheme will call on some member of a scheme to Inspect (but not provide a certificate ) of the work, and then it is deemed satisfactory. This actual "Inspector" may not be qualified in inspection and testing, and the QS takes no part! Now how is that not totally ridiculous? I am afraid it is jobs for the boys, and the fees charged are in no way controlled. The experience of GTB shows just how bad such an arrangement is, and it should never have existed. Most of the particularly poor work is never notified anyway, so I consider this just a way to increase scheme membership, there are more holes than a chain-link fence. BTW which bit of (c) says a full EIC must be produced, an EICR form may be filled in but this is not the same at all.

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  • I thought part p had pretty much withered on the vine and that no one really bothers with it any more, in the same as not notifying the fitting of a new W.C. in your bathroom, or having a window pane replaced.

    As for competence, what are/were exams/qualifications for?