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Rcbo neutral cables, cut to length

Hi 

Just a quick question. What is the preferred option when fitting rcbo’s with the long supply neutral cable pre wired into them, do you cut them to desired length and ferrule them or leave them as is and try to coil the excess cable up in the consumer unit?

Thanks

Peter

  • Probably should check what the manufacturer's instructions say, but my preference is to cut & bootlace ferrule.

    UK CUs are a rat's nest at the best of times without introducing unnecessary clutter, not to mention possible thermal issues (extra heat generation, less room for convection for heat dissipation).

       - Andy.

  • cut + ferrule, but leave a bit of slack in case things need shuffling around later.

  • Cut and re-dress. I still leave some slack, for re-work or additions, but where there is more than a couple of  inches or more of slack, in the bin it goes.

    Note that Wylex and maybe others form the ends into a cold welded shape that is not that great a fit into CU bus bars anyways.

    M

  • My crimpers form the ferrule into a square shape which might not be the best match for a round hole of a neutral bus bar. Are there better crimpers to use that would still keep the round shape once crimped? Perhaps once tightened into the terminal, the ferrule will have been deformed into a rounder shape anyway

  • Yes, I cut (and bootlace) but leave some slack as with the circuit conductors. It is perfectly possible that they will never be undone again, but you never know.

  • My crimpers form the ferrule into a square shape which might not be the best match for a round hole of a neutral bus bar. Are there better crimpers to use that would still keep the round shape once crimped? Perhaps once tightened into the terminal, the ferrule will have been deformed into a rounder shape anyway

    Mine do the same - but one screwed down in the terminal they readily distort - very much so under the screw, maybe less so against the bar, but the remaining 'ribbing' perhaps improves contact and perhaps even pull-out resistance. I've noticed that some terminals these days are deliberately ribbed presumably to ever so slightly cut-into the conductor.

       - Andy.

  • Yes mine leave a ribbed surface on the ferrule once crimped. I see that some crimpers form a hexagonal shape and some form a square shape. I presume that the square ones are more suited for the square clamp type terminals of mcb and rcd etc design and the hexagonal ones are more suited to the round neutral or earth bar type of terminal

  • Bear in mind that it doesn't need much contact area. If the two edges of the ferrule on the opposite side to the screw are squeezed against the curved tunnel wall such that the contact area of each edge is a thin strip about 0.5mm x 6mm, then that gives a total contact area of 6mm², big enough for most N leads. This glosses over nickel vs copper conductivity, not perfect contact etc.; but gives a rough indication that even if the ferrule isn't fully crushed into a curved shape, it's likely to be ok.

  • Cut and ferrule gets my vote too

  • The Garo fuse box has the option of double rail which makes it unessacary but is a bit frightening to look at