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Paying for an updated version again.

David Cooper

Ok, so amendment 2 of the 18th edition of the regs has been out for a while now and it’s cost me ££ to buy another amended version again. 
I think it would be good if the regs were published in a ring binder and updates could then be purchased at a much cheaper price than a whole new book. Just remove previous versions and insert the new pages. Also better for the planet than publishing a whole new book and throwing a whole book away.

I know a regs CD is also available but as a sole trader electrician I haven’t got the money for that sort of thing or the money to buy a whole new book each time the IET come up with new ideas. 

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  • This argument gets really boring.
    BS 7671 is a vital resource for anyone working (and happily charging customers) in the electrical industry.

    This is the first chargeable release since 2018…four years ago. That represents a cost of £25 per year. Do you also object to paying for insurance too? What about tools to do your job, or is the customer expected to provide those too?

    This the problem with the electrical contracting industry…more so the world of housebashing it seems. 

    Also for those arguing it’s just the IET making changes. As you should all well know BS 7671 is the UK implementation of HD 60364, which iitself is based on IEC 60364. These documents are constantly being updated as changes occur to a whole host of things. 
    This objection to continual improvements in standards is quite frankly pathetic.

    I recently saw a load of people whinging about the pointlessness of the requirements of 521.10.202… once again pure ignorance by the people who should know better. 

    The people you are charging money to rightly expect that you are completely up to date with the latest requirements in relation to your work. In exactly the same way you would expect the garage you take your work van to, to be fully conversant with the latest updates to your vehicle. Or the doctors operating on you or treating you for an illness or disease.

    Continuing professional development, which includes buying a new book, does have a cost, one that should be factored in to your pricing just like replacing power tools, test equipment etc. 

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  • This argument gets really boring.
    BS 7671 is a vital resource for anyone working (and happily charging customers) in the electrical industry.

    This is the first chargeable release since 2018…four years ago. That represents a cost of £25 per year. Do you also object to paying for insurance too? What about tools to do your job, or is the customer expected to provide those too?

    This the problem with the electrical contracting industry…more so the world of housebashing it seems. 

    Also for those arguing it’s just the IET making changes. As you should all well know BS 7671 is the UK implementation of HD 60364, which iitself is based on IEC 60364. These documents are constantly being updated as changes occur to a whole host of things. 
    This objection to continual improvements in standards is quite frankly pathetic.

    I recently saw a load of people whinging about the pointlessness of the requirements of 521.10.202… once again pure ignorance by the people who should know better. 

    The people you are charging money to rightly expect that you are completely up to date with the latest requirements in relation to your work. In exactly the same way you would expect the garage you take your work van to, to be fully conversant with the latest updates to your vehicle. Or the doctors operating on you or treating you for an illness or disease.

    Continuing professional development, which includes buying a new book, does have a cost, one that should be factored in to your pricing just like replacing power tools, test equipment etc. 

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  • in reply to Jonathan Williams

    You forgot to mention that profit spin-off for the lobbying manufacturers members who sit on the various committee.

    Ranking the recent changes in terms of relevance and effectiveness for the end-user-

    Type A rcds/rcbos = dubious value.

    surge protection = highly dubious value.

    AFDDs = pure sophistry.

    Still, we must not be permitted to question the reasoning behind the mandating of this stuff must we? After all, we wouldn't understand why even if we were told the truth would we?

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