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C&G 2396 sworn to secrecy

A fairly large cohort of lads took the city and guilds 2396 level 4 award in design and verification of electrical installations at our centre on Thursday evening. Really good to see people on courses who are there of their own volition rather than be forced through the 18th edition meat grinder. Any way, there is a declaration at the front of the paper that they must sign that compels them not to divulge the questions to anyone. Of course, after the exam the guys want to do a detailed post-mortem and who could blame them. For most, if not all, that signed declaration they made is of no consequence and questions are regurgitated almost verbatim.

Have any of you sat exams that demanded such a declaration? Or is it just city and guilds way of escaping the need to keep their questions fresh and fully subject to moderation, which is, no doubt, an expensive outlay for them?

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  • It is quite difficult to set exam questions, and the 18th edition exam is a case in point. The question bank has questions of wildly varying difficulty, so some candidates are more "lucky" the others. Whether this is random, or an artifact of the software (3 easy ones then 3 difficult) I do not know, but quite a few candidates do worse or better than I might expect, from the same teaching.

    Was this a written exam Lyle or a computer one, I suspect the latter, and they want to use it again and again.

  • It was a 3-hour written paper. Very intense with absolutely no time to review your work. There is also a project to complete with a time allocation of around 40hours. It really is a great course with lots of guys putting significant effort in to their course work only to be thwarted by the time pressure in the exam. Pass or not, there is no one who thinks the course is anything other than worthwhile. 
    It is one of the last “old-fashioned” assessments left in the suite of electrical installation qualifications. I do hope it is not softened too much but there are likely suitable ways to make it less of an artery buster and still keep the esteem.

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  • It was a 3-hour written paper. Very intense with absolutely no time to review your work. There is also a project to complete with a time allocation of around 40hours. It really is a great course with lots of guys putting significant effort in to their course work only to be thwarted by the time pressure in the exam. Pass or not, there is no one who thinks the course is anything other than worthwhile. 
    It is one of the last “old-fashioned” assessments left in the suite of electrical installation qualifications. I do hope it is not softened too much but there are likely suitable ways to make it less of an artery buster and still keep the esteem.

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  • In that case there is no need to keep the questions secret as presumably the whole country does the exam at the same time, supposedly like GCSEs etc, and like 0 and A levels used to be. The old (long gone) CEI part 2 was the killer, the syllabus was huge and the areas to ask questions beyond many candidates knowledge range. Then you might be able to pass as a CEng!