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Swimming pool level sensor

Hi im after some advice, I have recently performed an EICR at a public swimming pool.

Part of the installation uses water level sensors to monitor the level of the pool and automatically top up when the level drops by activating a solenoid valve.

The sensing is performed using "resistive probes" that are fitted directly into the swimming pool via a crouzet HNM control device. The type typically found inside a water tank.

Voltage specs for the sensing device:

'Max. voltage at probe terminals 5 V / 500 Hz ± 10 %
Max. current via probes < 1 mA'

My understanding as per 702.410.3.4.1 is that within the basin of a pool - zone 0 only SELV is permitted. The control device does not state SELV.

Further on in this section is does also state that 'Equipment for use in the of basins which is only intended to be in operation when people are not inside zone 0 shall be supplied by a circuit protected by:

  • SELV
  • ADS (RCD as per 415.1.1)
  • Electrical separation

Now the system is designed only to be energised outside of pool opening hours via a timeclock, however currently none of the above requirements are met.

My assessment is that an RCD needs to be fitted to the circuit, with warning notices to boot letting staff know this should only be used when the pool is closed.

Have I missed anything here or am I correct in my assessment?

In addition the maintenance staff have confirmed this system has been in place for many years and has never been a problem. Smiley

  • It is unusual to have sensors in the pool in a way that is accessible to users, partly due to the risk of damage or misreading during waves/splashing, normally the level is measured else where in the plumbing. Then in the same way that mains pumps are OK, because there is separation that limits the current that could escape into the pool itself via a length of (often earthed) pipe  or whatever, the situation is a lot safer.

    However, the voltages and currents quoted are not in themselves dangerous, the question is how credible failure modes of the sensor or rather the power supply might play out.  An RCD on the mains side will do no harm, I am surprised there is not one already, and  I assume the mains does not go into the pool, rather there is some sort of power supply associated with the controller, safely in the dry, and the sensor is on its own lead from that.

    It might be sensible to check with the makers of the box that converts the mains to the 5V or whatever, that this is an application they are happy with. In the meantime your approach is correct to be cautious. Just having 'worked for years', is no guarantee it is unconditionally safe.

    Mike

  • Thanks Mike

    Yes I suspect these level sensors have been fitted by in house techs and are a bit of an after thought as another pool onsite that is newer has sensors fitted to the balance tank via a site/level tube utilising a floating metal ball and type of magnetic switch clamp to the outside of the tube.

    Thanks for the pointers, it is appreciated.