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SPECIFICATION FOR DOMESTIC PERIODIC INSPECTION AND TESTING

I have updated my specification for the Periodic Inspection and Testing of domestic installations.

The specification is for use by persons requiring an electrical inspection and test of a domestic electrical installation or by competent engineers and electricians  who need to specify what they are going to do, and not do, when tendering to carry out an inspection and test.

The specification has been updated to the 18th Edition AMD2 and also has a section now on PV plus some other minor amendments.

If you want a free copy email me on info(the symbol for at)astutetechnicalservices.co.uk.

Some light reading after Christmas lunch perhaps?

Parents
  • You are to be commended for your efforts in this John, I will email you later.

    Have you put a cost to its implementation on say a typical 3-bedroom semi? 
    I wonder if a conscientious social landlord with 10000 dwelling units mostly in the one to three bedroom range asked a conscientious electrical contractor what sort of inspection routine he could do for say £80, would the risks be mitigated to a tolerable level?

    The contractor might have to do a hatchet job on the reporting documentation and put greater emphasis on inspection but that might be no bad thing!

  • 1988 our C&G 2391 tutor exclaimed "some folk are supposedly doing a PIR for £50! How the hell can anyone inspect,test and document any dwelling for £50"

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  • 1988 our C&G 2391 tutor exclaimed "some folk are supposedly doing a PIR for £50! How the hell can anyone inspect,test and document any dwelling for £50"

Children
  • Your tutor was correct and certainly no one following JP’s spec could do it for £80. But that is not what I am getting at. I was asked the question I set out in my post above. It was indeed asked by a senior level employee of a conscientious social housing provider. It was directed to me, a conscientious contractor, during my delivery of a 2391 course to some of his electrical maintenance  personnel. 
    It is a legitimate question. They have a budget, there is no way it would stretch to the regime set out by JP. 
    Any dead tenants? Any tenants suffered electric shock of any kind? Any fires arising from faults in the fixed installation? No to all of the above. So, their regime seems to be working and that requires their electricians to check 4 dwelling units daily. 
    One of the most common issues they report, by the way, is burning of the neutral at the shower pullcord switch. So where maintenance issues like that are uncovered they find their way onto the inspection regime.

  • Lyle

    Of course a diligent periodic inspection and test cannot be done for £80 so what is the point in getting this report? It has no value or validity.

    This is exactly what Dame Judith Hackett was talking about in her report about the race to the bottom. Watch the YouTube videos of the Grenfell tower inquiry and you will see it there with so called professionals behaviors put under the microscope.

    If you cannot afford to get it done properly then do not do it at all!  If you are a housing provider with a limited budget then get fewer properties properly inspected and tested on a priority basis on a rolling program each year.

    JP

  • If you cannot afford to get it done properly then do not do it at all!  If you are a housing provider with a limited budget then get fewer properties properly inspected and tested on a priority basis on a rolling program each year.

    The ESSPRS Regulations give landlords no choice.

    Imagine going for an MOT with £30. You cannot afford the whole test, so the tester just does the brakes, horn and lights!

  • Yes Chris - however I`m sure you know, like we all do, what happens in the actual real world. I`m sure that Mr Peckham and Mr Stone both agree on that one

  • John,  I think renters have to inspect after each occupier leaves and this is where the cost can become silly.

    Maybe define the interval for a full test and a shorter test for each change of occupant ?

  • Not quite. The ESSPRS Regulations simply specify that a new tenant must be given a copy of the most recent report.

  • if that is your situation you should drive a tractor or other MOT exempt machine. Now what is the wiring equivalent of the exception for a classic car?

    Mike.

  • Let's not derail JP's thread, but I would say that even though an MOT tester does not have to inspect the seat belts of my 1930 Alvis ('cos it doesn't have any) I don't get a discount. Along the same lines, if there is no additional protection in the form of RCDs, you wouldn't expect a discount either.