Disconnection times on a system if a stand by generator is used

On a fully designed power distribution system, clearly the fault levels, earth loop impedances and ultimately fuse disconnection times are determined by the system parameters Transformer %Z etc one or two in parallel for min and max fault levels levels. What needs to be considered when bringing on a stand-by generator, clearly all Fault levels, Earth loop impedances and consequently fuse disconnection times would change because of the Generator parameters. How would you design in these new parameters, bearing in mind that disconnection times on a large system may no longer be achievable 

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  • Mapj1, thanks for the reply I knew these issues. But trying to make decisions when designing a power system which has a Stand-by Generator, what parameters would you use for Ze and PSC, given that these values need to be assessed for disconnection times at all points of the installation, which would be worse case in the design, clearly max. Fault level will be determined by the main Transformer characteristics. I have designed numerous Power System arrangements, but the Stand-by Generator parameters still cause me a problem

  • For the purposes of sizing the breakers, or rather their breaking capacity or frame size,  assume the PSSC may be as high as that of  the street supply or local transformer - as the 'on mains' case clearly gives the higher current. In the usual way the currentand  energy limiting effect of fuses may be beneficial in relaxing the size of down stream breakers to 10kA or 6kA types.

    However, for the purpose of earth fault trip times and ADS, you will need the lowest fault current case, and that is genset, so then assume that Zs may be as high as the phase voltage divided by about twice the genset full load current, or if you prefer to think that way that the PSC may as low as  200% of genset rating when it is the power source. There is no equivalent energy limiting benefit from the death or glory fuse, on genset as it will most likely never operate. Set your earth trips accordingly, As an example, but  not the only ones, the vigi ones are nice offering independent programming of delay and threshold. However the price reflects this

    This will result in a design that trips promptly even on genset, and also that does not catch fire with excessive fault currents when on mains.

    Miike

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  • For the purposes of sizing the breakers, or rather their breaking capacity or frame size,  assume the PSSC may be as high as that of  the street supply or local transformer - as the 'on mains' case clearly gives the higher current. In the usual way the currentand  energy limiting effect of fuses may be beneficial in relaxing the size of down stream breakers to 10kA or 6kA types.

    However, for the purpose of earth fault trip times and ADS, you will need the lowest fault current case, and that is genset, so then assume that Zs may be as high as the phase voltage divided by about twice the genset full load current, or if you prefer to think that way that the PSC may as low as  200% of genset rating when it is the power source. There is no equivalent energy limiting benefit from the death or glory fuse, on genset as it will most likely never operate. Set your earth trips accordingly, As an example, but  not the only ones, the vigi ones are nice offering independent programming of delay and threshold. However the price reflects this

    This will result in a design that trips promptly even on genset, and also that does not catch fire with excessive fault currents when on mains.

    Miike

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