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Thoughts on running cables behind aga

I am putting wiring in to a grade 2 listed building for a new kitchen.

I need to get 3 circuits past an aga to a kitchen island. I can't disturb the original flagstone flooring.

Sockets, 1 double and one socket socket at counter height, end of radial circuit

13 amp oven (based on manufacturers recommendation)

20 amp induction hob (based on manufacturers recommendations, has option to reduce.)

I could go in front of the aga as it's slightly raised but it's going to look unsightly and could actually be warmer than the back.

The aga is in a very large open fire place and I could drill through the side of the fireplace to run cables at the back, the back seems quite cool, especially at the bottom, I need to measure but would guess about 30 deg C.

Some numbers below

What do you think about the overall concept, do you have any experience with aga's, is it reasonable to assume the rear temperature won't exceed 50 C. (there is no back boiler involved)

There is a thermal cut out connected to 7 or 8 meters of sensor tube behind the aga, don't know what it's cut out point is at the moment

I am thinking of running all the circuits in 90 C thermosetting

 sockets on 4mm radial  

13 amp oven on 2.5mm radial

20 amp induction hob on 4mm radial

cable ratings, in free air, say 50 C ambient, 

2.5 mm 36A, @50 C = 29A

4.0 mm 49A  @ 50 C = 40A

6.0 mm 63A @ 50C = 51A

at 50 deg C Ca is 0.82 

Its a 3 or 4 inch gap at the back, did think about considering it like conduit but air is free to rise and take heat away, but even if I did the cable rating is still ok.

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  • Hi All 

    Thanks for the input so far.

    There is about a 2 inch gap behind the aga, I drilled through the side of the fireplace today and manage to get a rod behind the aga. The walls of the fireplace are about 18 inches thick, with at least 2 maybe 3 layers of brick. It's on the ground floor of a 400 years old house and very solidly built.

    Now I have a rod in, I can get a temperature probe in to the back. I am probably more concerned about insulation than lagging now, the rod went through but it felt like it was being pushed against the wall by something. 

    The aga external case temperature is lowest at lower back and highest at top front with a big temperature gradient. The front and and top part of the sides do a good job of warming the room but the back appears to be insulated and I assume the heat source is near the top front somewhere.

    Hopefully will have a small core drill tomorrow so that I can drill a larger hole from a restricted space.and will then have enough space to stick a camera in.

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  • Hi All 

    Thanks for the input so far.

    There is about a 2 inch gap behind the aga, I drilled through the side of the fireplace today and manage to get a rod behind the aga. The walls of the fireplace are about 18 inches thick, with at least 2 maybe 3 layers of brick. It's on the ground floor of a 400 years old house and very solidly built.

    Now I have a rod in, I can get a temperature probe in to the back. I am probably more concerned about insulation than lagging now, the rod went through but it felt like it was being pushed against the wall by something. 

    The aga external case temperature is lowest at lower back and highest at top front with a big temperature gradient. The front and and top part of the sides do a good job of warming the room but the back appears to be insulated and I assume the heat source is near the top front somewhere.

    Hopefully will have a small core drill tomorrow so that I can drill a larger hole from a restricted space.and will then have enough space to stick a camera in.

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