Domestic (Household) Properties - RCD on Lights

Hi Guys, 

Just wanted peoples opinions on what would be classed as a domestic (household) property. Obviously most are relatively clear cut but others are not.

It is my understanding from articles in the past that (household) was added to the regulation and that for non combustible consumer units due to the fact other domestic style properties may not be included in the regulation such as care homes, hotels etc.

My main reasoning for the discussion would be workers accommodation within a commercial environment. Would RCD protection be required on lighting within a bedsit or flat style environment within say a pub, farm, hotel etc. Would this change dependant on whether the accommodation was for sleeping as shift workers over permanent residence for a worker. 

Now its not really an issue since on a new install I would install RCD protection anyway and on an EICR lack of RCD protection on lighting would reasonably only receive a C3 coding. I just haven't been able to find any real list let alone a more definitive list on what counts as household. 

I have recently seen reports for some circuits feeding accommodation only on pubs,  the accommodation is only for workers, the circuits are primarily fed from the commercial boards within the pub but some reports have an observation recorded for the lack of RCD on lights as a C3 and some have not and sparked my interest in what others would record. (Some have C2 for lack of RCD protection on this and various other circuits but I would deem that over-coding)

If this has been discussed previously and someone can point me to the post or any articles relating to this from trusted sources it would be appreciated. 

Thank you

Parents
  • Interested in what you guys would code an LED lighting circuit with type AC RCD

    What action if any would you take if asked to change GU10 down lights for LED on a type AC RCD or no RCD circuit. I think the right action would be to fit a type A RCD but would be interest in what others think. but on the other hand its a minor works certificate no additions to the circuit just changing the fitting.

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  • Interested in what you guys would code an LED lighting circuit with type AC RCD

    What action if any would you take if asked to change GU10 down lights for LED on a type AC RCD or no RCD circuit. I think the right action would be to fit a type A RCD but would be interest in what others think. but on the other hand its a minor works certificate no additions to the circuit just changing the fitting.

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  • What does the manufacturer specify?

    No more than C3. I say that not least because when I installed my installation (what else can you install? :-) ) to BS 7671: 2018 a bit before the drawbridge came down, I deliberately omitted RCD protection because I could. They are well beyond reach and it is difficult to see how they could ever present a shock risk.

    Concerning type A vs type AC: my RCBOs at home are all type A because that is what the manufacturer (Eaton) supplies. A couple of years ago I had a problem inasmuch as a boiler specified type A, but Schneider only supplied type AC. Type A was in the Irish catalogue, but I could not get them.

    Sometimes you cannot win.